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[12:41:24] <Florian> hey
[12:41:41] <stpeter> hello
[12:41:59] <Florian> so I guess we'll have a meeting tonight?
[12:42:28] <Florian> everyone seems to be around, we just kinda forgot to formalize the date... are you available in an hour?
[12:43:05] <Florian> ah .. nvm :) saw the mails :)
[12:43:19] <stpeter> I wasn't sure if it was today or tomorrow
[12:44:56] <stpeter> brb
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[12:56:01] <Nÿco> http://typewith.me/PUtTuIGVtN
[12:56:09] <Nÿco> Etherpad being down...
[12:56:22] <stpeter> yeah I miss etherpad
[12:59:26] <Nÿco> Will is offline...
[12:59:52] *Nÿco has invited Jack
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[13:00:11] <Florian> isn't it in an hour?
[13:00:19] <Florian> 8pm BST?
[13:00:28] <Nÿco> ah
[13:00:32] <stpeter> I have no idea -- I prefer UTC anyway :)
[13:00:52] <Nÿco> I won't be there in one hour
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[13:01:32] <Florian> hmm
[13:02:06] <Florian> Will said he'd be here in 30 mins (7:30pm UTC+1)
[13:02:07] <Nÿco> it's up to you
[13:02:47] <Florian> would 30 mins from now be ok?
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[13:06:15] <jack> should work for me
[13:06:41] <Nÿco> ah not for me unfortunately, I'm sorry...
[13:06:52] *Nÿco is lost with timezones
[13:10:05] <Florian> should we pre-roll the meeting now then?
[13:10:16] <Florian> Will will join us later on, and we can go over some points again?
[13:11:34] <stpeter> WFM
[13:12:31] <stpeter> so the agenda at http://typewith.me/PUtTuIGVtN says:

XMPP Summit?
GSoC?
IETF?
Website?
[13:12:33] <stpeter> anything else?
[13:12:50] <Florian> not atm ...
[13:13:14] <stpeter> ok
[13:13:17] <stpeter> let's see
[13:13:20] <Florian> so ... XMPP Summit
[13:13:28] <stpeter> I've been travelling for the last two weeks so I'm far behind
[13:13:54] <stpeter> I probably won't be able to attend the Summit -- possible, but it seems unlikely right now
[13:13:59] <stpeter> I
[13:14:07] <stpeter> I'll know more in the next week or two
[13:14:14] <Florian> ok ...
[13:14:31] <stpeter> anyway I shall ping my O'Reilly contacts RIGHT NOW
[13:15:24] <bear> if it happens I will be there to help
[13:15:56] <Florian> great :)
[13:16:02] <stpeter> I sense a lack of energy in the XMPP community, but perhaps a Summit will increase the energy level
[13:16:05] *stpeter isn't sure
[13:16:27] <bear> there is a lot of activity - but it needs some "sunshine" to let others know
[13:16:32] <stpeter> perhaps
[13:16:35] <bear> lots of small clumps happening
[13:16:41] <Florian> yeah
[13:16:42] <stpeter> well at least Sift was released to beta :P
[13:16:54] <Florian> :)
[13:17:51] <Nÿco> I still have the FOSDEM interviews hold in the blog...
[13:18:10] <Nÿco> the articles needs to be written though
[13:18:20] <Florian> I can help with those
[13:18:22] <Nÿco> I also sense a slowdown
[13:18:34] <Florian> maybe we can create an audio podcast with those interviews
[13:18:38] <Nÿco> yes, please: if you want to review/write those articles
[13:18:51] <Nÿco> we can just pubish them as is
[13:19:05] <Florian> I'll ping you tomorrow about them :)
[13:19:07] <Nÿco> as said before, no need to be pro
[13:19:08] <Nÿco> ok
[13:20:13] <Nÿco> what can we do on the website?
[13:20:35] <Florian> I guess for that we'd need Will here
[13:20:43] <Florian> as he's been the main guy working on the new website
[13:20:46] <Nÿco> ah ok
[13:21:25] <stpeter> email sent to O'Reilly
[13:21:28] <Florian> great
[13:21:38] <Nÿco> cool, thx
[13:21:48] <stpeter> ok, GSoC update?
[13:22:05] <Kev> bear: you, I guess?
[13:22:29] <bear> students are starting to code, mentors are mentoring - we shuld be having our first meeting this weekend
[13:22:44] <bear> I will be ramping up my pain-pokes if I don't see a web blog by this weekend
[13:22:48] <bear> so far i've only seen one
[13:23:10] <bear> i'm also going to be poking folks to idle in the gsoc muc
[13:23:32] <Kev> Which several do, to be fair.
[13:23:32] <bear> anythng you want to add kev?
[13:23:35] <stpeter> what's the muc?
[13:23:37] <Nÿco> can we write a blog-post about it?
[13:23:45] <Kev> gsoc@muc.xmpp.org
[13:23:50] <Kev> Or whatever the name of our muc service is :)
[13:23:50] <bear> oh sure, they are - it's only a couple that ar not
[13:23:57] <stpeter> heh ok
[13:24:00] <Kev> Where did we get to on books?
[13:24:00] <stpeter> muc.xmpp.org yes
[13:24:16] <Kev> I know some students have already bought TDG, which is a shame if we're going to buy them copies.
[13:24:22] <Kev> Are we doing books this year?
[13:24:36] <stpeter> Kev: I have been utterly remiss on that score
[13:24:42] <stpeter> as on many other things
[13:24:45] <bear> I can buy them and shipthis weekend if tht's ok
[13:24:53] <bear> and bill the xmpp later
[13:25:03] <stpeter> sure
[13:25:12] <stpeter> that's what I did in 2008 (?)
[13:25:13] <Kev> If board are OK, I'd propose a copy of TDG, Pragmatic and GTD for each student.
[13:25:22] <Kev> Or ask whether they'd rather TDG or Strophe.
[13:25:51] <Kev> That probably eats about 1/5 of the money the XSF will get from Google.
[13:26:00] <stpeter> Kev: makes sense (if the student already has TDG, might prefer Strophe -- or might prefer it anyway :)
[13:26:08] <Tobias> Kev: which is XSF's primary income, right? :)
[13:26:16] <stpeter> Tobias: don't remind me :P
[13:26:28] <stpeter> but that's a topic for another day...
[13:26:31] <bear> :)
[13:26:52] <Nÿco> yes, good idea, if you vote later, count me as +1
[13:26:59] <stpeter> Nÿco: ok!
[13:27:42] *stpeter jots down some notes at http://typewith.me/PUtTuIGVtN
[13:27:52] <stpeter> anything else on GSoC?
[13:28:10] <Kev> Nothing that needs Board attention, I think, unless Board want info on anything.
[13:28:14] <stpeter> I see "IETF?" is an agenda item, what would you like to know?
[13:28:38] <stpeter> there is a working group last call on rfc3920bis right now
[13:28:42] <stpeter> no feedback yet
[13:28:54] <stpeter> either that means it's perfect or people are too busy to review it :)
[13:28:56] <Kev> The timeframe's short on that, right?
[13:29:09] <stpeter> traditionally WGLC is 2 weeks @ IETF
[13:29:14] <stpeter> I think it might be extended
[13:29:32] <Nÿco> we can blog the last call also...
[13:29:33] <stpeter> at least that's what the chairs have hinted
[13:29:41] <stpeter> Nÿco: um yeah good idea :)
[13:29:50] <stpeter> I'll do that after this meeting
[13:29:56] <Kev> I think it'd take me a couple of days (or more) to do a review, and I don't have that time spare at the moment.
[13:29:59] <Nÿco> cool, thx
[13:30:02] *stpeter nods
[13:30:07] <Kev> Anyway, Board.
*shuts up*
[13:30:16] <stpeter> it does take time to read the whole thing
[13:30:20] <stpeter> ~175 pages
[13:30:21] <stpeter> anyway
[13:30:33] <stpeter> I'll send out further pokage
[13:30:37] <stpeter> and bloggage
[13:31:39] <stpeter> after that, we'll do the same thing with 3921bis
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[13:31:52] <stpeter> but I think we'll need another revision of that because I've found some issues
[13:32:51] <Kev> Might be good - even I found issues ther.
[13:33:26] <stpeter> :)
[13:34:45] <stpeter> for the website, we'll need to ping Will
[13:35:08] <Nÿco> ok, I'll need to leave you now, I'm sorry-sorry-sorry... :'(
[13:35:15] <stpeter> Nÿco: no problem!
[13:35:16] <stpeter> thanks
[13:35:27] <Nÿco> thank you all, bye
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[13:40:11] <stpeter> https://stpeter.im/index.php/2010/06/01/last-call-on-rfc3920bis/
[13:41:54] <Florian> great :)
[13:42:05] <stpeter> also sent to standards@xmpp.org
[13:43:23] <Florian> so ... I guess just website is left ...
[13:43:27] <Florian> and that's with Will?
[13:43:30] <stpeter> yes
[13:45:45] <Florian> so I guess we'll take a short break?
[13:46:03] <stpeter> we're doing that already :)
[13:46:13] <Florian> :)
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[13:47:24] <stpeter> except I'm madly processing email
[13:51:36] *stpeter writes a post for blog.xmpp.org too
[13:51:40] <jack> i am here now
[13:51:45] <jack> i got quadruple booked
[13:51:52] <jack> but i could only get out of so many :)
[13:51:55] <stpeter> hehe
[13:51:59] <stpeter> that's scary
[13:53:43] <bear> yea, this time slot is very popular when dealing the EU folks and PST folks
[13:53:50] <stpeter> :)
[13:54:02] <jack> so will is showing up in 10m?
[13:54:09] <stpeter> so we hope
[13:54:50] <jack> ok. i'll be back shortly then.
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[13:58:53] <stpeter> k
[14:04:57] <stpeter> http://blog.xmpp.org/index.php/2010/06/ietf-happenings/
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[14:07:35] <Florian> hmm ... no idea where Will is :/
[14:09:13] <stpeter> yeah me neither
[14:09:39] <Florian> I guess, if he's not coming, let's move the last item, the website discussion to the next meeting
[14:09:54] <stpeter> sure
[14:09:57] <Florian> and let's schedule that one now ...
[14:09:58] <stpeter> when is the next meeting?
[14:10:00] <stpeter> heh
[14:10:02] <stpeter> ok
[14:10:03] <Florian> sometime next week?
[14:10:16] <stpeter> this time next week would work for me
[14:10:19] <Florian> that way we can have a full meeting next week :)
[14:10:31] <Florian> jack: how's that for you?
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[14:13:19] <jack> Yeah. Should work dine
[14:13:19] <jack> Fine even
[14:13:36] <Florian> great
[14:13:46] <Florian> I'll post the minutes to the board list then
[14:13:49] <jack> I will send an email about it when I'm back at the house
[14:13:55] <Florian> should we publish it?
[14:14:06] <Florian> ah, or you can post it if you want
[14:14:08] <jack> +1
[14:14:22] <Florian> ok ...
[14:14:26] <stpeter> +1 about posting to board list, people can review and then we can forward to members@
[14:14:46] <Florian> ok :)
[14:14:58] *stpeter edits the notes a bit more
[14:15:04] <Florian> ok :)
[14:15:42] <jack> See you guys around. Time for lunch here :)
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[14:15:57] <stpeter> Florian: edits finished
[14:16:15] <Florian> cool, I'll post it to the list then
[14:16:20] <stpeter> thanks
[14:23:45] <Florian> done
[14:23:47] <stpeter> woot, down below 500 messages in my inbox
[14:23:49] <stpeter> saw that
[14:23:49] <stpeter> thansk
[14:23:50] <Florian> :)
[14:23:52] <stpeter> thanks even
[14:24:18] <stpeter> I need a short break, bbiaf
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