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[12:10:02] <Daniel> I am using it. Progress!
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[12:12:40] <Daniel> daniel@tigase.org feel free to add me
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[12:15:42] <jcbrand> I've added both of you, jc@opkode.com
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[12:20:17] <nyco> Hey
[12:20:32] <nyco> nyco@movim.eu
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[12:21:20] <Nÿco> test
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[12:35:38] <jcbrand> http://www.blikoontech.com/xmpp/xmpp-a-soft-friendly-introduction
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[12:36:40] <nyco> nice, I didn't know that one, good looking illustrations
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[12:38:32] <nyco> so take a look at what we used to do: https://xmpp.org/category/xmpp-roundup.html
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[12:42:22] <Daniel> This will be good resources to build from.
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[13:07:50] <nyco> example of things we can all retweet and engage on: https://twitter.com/DwdDave/status/959350202095333376
[13:08:02] <nyco> please like, retweet, comment, as you wish
[13:11:26] <jcbrand> nyco: can you retweet this as @xmpp? https://twitter.com/daniel_gakwaya/status/959397779574583296
[13:12:07] <jcbrand> BTW, I'd be keen to get the credentials for the twitter XMPP account
[13:12:17] <jcbrand> I follow #xmpp and often find stuff worth retweeting
[13:38:00] <nyco> jcbrand no, I can't, but we'll ask Kev to have access to Tweetdeck for every one of us
[13:38:23] <jcbrand> nyco: thanks, my twitter id is jcopkode
[13:44:11] <nyco> good point, if we choose to retweet from @xmpp it means the XSF probably loses its strict neutrality, as we can't cover everything, we'll lose some content
also, the mission of the XSF is specs, not forcefully to communicate
so we may have to create a specific account maybe?
[13:45:35] <nyco> https://twitter.com/nyconyco if you want to like/share
[13:45:39] <Daniel> That's not a bad idea, maybe XMPPcomms or something along those lines - like an adjacent
[13:47:01] <nyco> I like this name! ;-)
[13:52:39] <nyco> https://twitter.com/xmpp pinned tweet 2015 ouch! ;-)
[13:58:04] <nyco> so, basically, what I am doing on the accounts that I have and works quite well without too much effort:

create accounts/pages/blablah on each major social network (twitter, facebook, linkedin, google plus)
each time I have a short content to share (short to average siez text, plus graphical illustration), I put it on Buffer, it takes charge of when (dat&time) it will be posted, maximising the level of attention from the audience by posting at the best moment
watch analytics from time to time, learn from that, formulate hypothesis
[13:59:29] <Daniel> we'll likely need a bunch of posts to get some needful data. I'm sure we can pull from recent blogs to push some of that if we're going to use a social media-based solution
[13:59:57] <nyco> on Twitter, it is quite easy to get followers, target them quite well, follow them by batch, a few days unfollow the non-followers (by using tools, such as https://unfollowerstats.com/
this way, I've created accounts and brought them to hundreds of followers, sometimes passing the 1000+ mark
[14:00:22] <nyco> Daniel tak, I agree ;-)
[14:02:49] <Daniel> Do you think we would abandon the newsletter e-mail style altogeather in favor of curated blogs/shares? I do like the ability to engauge from the platforms though. If nothing else basic questions and such can be directed.
[14:03:17] <Daniel> I think an early task for us should be to contact blogs who would not mind us re-posting, or sharing information from.
[14:03:46] <nyco> I have no preference so far
I only know that curation is quite an effort
a newsletter would bring us strong measurement, such as open rate, click-though rate, etc.
[14:04:21] <Seve> jcbrand wanted to go for the newsletter
[14:04:31] <nyco> I think we just can share what's already public, I guess they would be happy by default that some one redistributes the content to reach other audiences
[14:04:57] <Daniel> Of course if we told them, they might be encouraged to produce more
[14:05:43] <nyco> aim high, start low, iterate
[14:06:12] <nyco> and pareto principle: 20 % effort for 80 % outcome
[14:06:24] <nyco> I won't for something elaborated or complete
[14:06:50] <nyco> I'd rather experiement, both ourselves on how we work and cooperate, and the reception by the audience we will build
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[14:11:17] <SaltyBones> I guess we cannot have @xsf @xmpp @jabber?
[14:12:29] <Nÿco> we can ask the quesiton to the Board
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[14:25:04] <nyco> https://twitter.com/nyconyco/status/959432209701720069
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[14:39:35] <SaltyBones> nyco: aren't you on the board? ;)
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[15:09:11] <nyco> Yep, one among five
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[17:45:31] <SaltyBones> So, I think it would be nice if we could get a running start and publish something about the summit in the next few days.
[17:45:36] <SaltyBones> Is anybody on that yet?
[17:45:42] <SaltyBones> guus talked about it
[17:47:02] <SaltyBones> nyco, when you said newsletter did you mean the website kind?
[17:54:28] <SaltyBones> jcbrand, the protocol is already on the wiki?7
[17:55:05] <jcbrand> SaltyBones: not yet, you can read it here: https://xmppsummit2018.opkode.com/
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[19:55:50] <Seve> I thought the SCAM was in charge of writing about the Summit but I guess they focus on organizing/giving assitance? Since Guus was doing that kind of work
[19:55:54] <Seve> I'm just asking
[20:19:13] <nyco> I think SCAM just organises, does not write, we may wanna check with Guus though
[20:19:44] <nyco> SaltyBones: what do you mean the website kind?
[20:40:05] <SaltyBones> Nevermind
[20:40:09] <SaltyBones> Not important
[20:40:16] <SaltyBones> What matters is what do we do? :)
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