Monday, February 26, 2018
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Submissions for the newsletter: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/News_and_Articles_for_the_next_XMPP_Newsletter

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[07:54:21] <Guus> I've deleted most of the old, merged branches there
[07:55:23] <Guus> Unsure about the 'german news' part, JC (or for any localized news, for that matter)
[07:55:28] <Guus> otherwise, yey :)
[07:56:17] <jonasw> what’s the status of tweeting things?
[07:56:30] <jonasw> also, good morning everyone :)
[07:57:01] <Guus> Unsure. I can. CommWT should, but I don't know if they've asked for their accounts to be added to tweetdeck, and ifso, if that has been arranged.
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[07:57:20] <Guus> (iteam, notably Kev, will be able to help with that)
[07:57:24] <jonasw> hm, what’s blocking the "retweet" of that Eve Online thing?
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[08:39:50] <jcbrand> Guus: I feel relatively strongly about including non-English articles. They can be at the bottom of the newsletter. In so many places and communities there is an Anglo-American bias pervading thought and discussions due to the dominance of the English language. Non-English speakers sometimes have a different perspective on things that get lots otherwise. For example, I often see XMPP as IM option being considered more seriously in German articles than in English ones. My impression is that Germans also value online privacy more than average.
[08:40:06] <jcbrand> s/lots/lost
[08:41:31] <jcbrand> Guus, jonasw: concerning tweets, AFAIR, we need to ask the board for access. I've asked nyco a few times, but he seems to be quite busy. Can I write an email to someone about this?
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[08:43:34] <jcbrand> Guus thinking further about non-English articles, we could keep all text in the email English, even when linking to a non-English article. People can then use Google translate to read it in English if they're interested.
[08:45:57] <Guus> jcbrand: you have stronger feelings about this subject than I do. I can live with any choice comm comes up with
[08:46:14] <jcbrand> Guus: It's still unclear to me how to properly communicate with the board. For example, besides the Tweetdeck access, we also have two people who want to join, winfried and Neustradamus. Who should I contact in this regard?
[08:47:12] <Guus> as for twitter: there aught not to be the need for explicit approval. I brought this up during the board meeting, at which point Ralph pointed out that iteam will facilitate comms with whatever they need to help with their mission goal (not his exact words, but something to that extend).
[08:47:25] <jcbrand> ok
[08:47:54] <jcbrand> Kev wanted to play it safe, so wanted it to go through board first, but that was before the CommsWT was established formally.
[08:49:20] <Guus> JC, read back the logs of the board meeting. In my view, it's clear that comms can have access. If you or Kev are unsure, I'll be happy to bring it up in board explicitly again (but I was cut short when I did last time, with the reasoning that such board approval wasn't needed).
[08:49:53] <jcbrand> ok
[08:50:05] <Guus> as for contacting the board. I've been struggling with that myself last year. I think either reaching out to individual board members (you just did) or posting on the members list are yoru best bet
[08:50:18] <Guus> please persist until your item pops up on our Trello board
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[08:50:31] <Guus> https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings
[08:51:49] <Guus> what's N's actual name?
[08:52:22] <Guus> Ludovic Bocquet, right?
[08:53:15] <Guus> I've added both member requests as items to vote for board
[08:53:40] <Guus> I'll hold off with the Tweetdeck thingy until I hear from you or iteam that a vote is needed, ok?
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[09:01:06] <jcbrand> Thank you Guus!
[09:01:23] <jcbrand> I've updated the CommsTeam wiki page: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/CommTeam
[09:03:58] <jcbrand> SaltyBones, Neustradamus, nyco, Seve: I made a wiki page where you can submit articles for the next Newsletter. https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/News_and_Articles_for_the_next_XMPP_Newsletter
[09:04:43] <jcbrand> The first newsletter outline is on Github: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/blob/comms-team-newsletter/content/posts/newsletter/2018-03.md
[09:06:15] <Guus> Nice! Maybe broadcast that inbox to the members list? Non team-members might have input that's of interest.
[09:08:14] <jcbrand> ok, will do
[09:11:02] <SaltyBones> very nice, of course I am disappointed that we are not using XMPP for collecting suggestions ;)
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[09:14:49] <jcbrand> right tool for the right job
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[09:29:21] <jonasw> Guus, so you could re-post that thing on twitter?
[09:35:47] <Guus> I can repost what?
[09:35:51] <Guus> (yes I can)
[09:35:53] <Guus> but what?
[09:36:29] <jonasw> Guus, https://www.eveonline.com/article/p4i0qx/new-chat-backend-coming-with-the-march-release I think this was discussed here already?
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[09:44:44] <Seve> jcbrand, I will try to chatch up later today if possible, I will get out of the office later than usual. What's wrong on discussing stuff in this MUC? (I've just read the Wiki)
[09:45:06] <Seve> Well anyway, I will try to check everything at night If I can
[09:45:36] <Guus> jonasw, oh, yeah. I thnk I did retweet that, but form my personal account.
[09:45:44] <jcbrand> Seve: I don't understand your question, who said there's anything wrong? Although, I would say that since this room doesn't have MAM enabled, it's less useful than it could be
[09:45:47] <Guus> it'd be nice for the commteam to be able to do this though :)
[09:46:09] <jonasw> Guus, true, but that shouldn’t block parts of commteam to do it for now, should it?
[09:46:11] <jcbrand> Guus: I read the board minutes again, looks to me like I can just ask the iteam directly.
[09:47:27] <Guus> jcbrand: exactly
[09:47:56] <Guus> jonasw: no, but a) I'm not on the commsteam, and b) they don't have access yet. That's what JC just referred to. It's in the works.
[09:48:03] <jonasw> oooh
[09:48:04] <Guus> if they can't get access soon, I'll post it, ok?
[09:48:11] <jonasw> I didn’t realize that you’re not in Commsteam
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[09:48:26] <Guus> but I'm anxcious for other people to be able to do things :)
[09:48:33] <jonasw> yeah, that makes sense, sorry
[09:48:38] <jonasw> I was under the impression that you’re part of commsteam
[09:48:42] <jonasw> now it all makes sense
[09:48:58] <Guus> kk :)
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[10:20:19] <Neustradamus> /!\ It is not complete yet for Psi/Psi+ about OMEMO, do not announce for the moment
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[10:42:02] <jcbrand> ok :)
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[10:42:50] <jcbrand> I removed it
[10:44:57] <SaltyBones> Neustradamus: Here: ⚠️ ;)
[10:45:55] <Neustradamus> SaltyBones: :)
[10:49:10] <Neustradamus> What do you think? https://github.com/ForkAwesome/Fork-Awesome/commit/796dc7470741ab46f24a8970c9904983f2b0de75
[10:50:20] <SaltyBones> I scrolled a bit but couldn't find and image of the actual icon. ;)
[10:53:35] <SaltyBones> https://forkawesome.github.io/Fork-Awesome/icon/xmpp/
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[11:01:44] <jcbrand> SaltyBones: already included
[11:02:03] <jcbrand> Neustradamus: ^
[11:03:12] <Neustradamus> jcbrand: I do not understand
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[11:18:01] <jcbrand> The Fork Awesome news is already included in the newsletter
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[11:24:19] <Neustradamus> :)
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