XSF Communications Team - 2019-10-01

the dead line is... before the next newsletter? :)

so I'll work on the newsletter, the real one, the one we send by email, that lands in your inbox

meanwhile, how do we want to promote this issue on Twitter?

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my draft/proposition to you for today, like this afternoon: " The XMPP Newsletter is out! Read the latest news from the XMPP/Jabber communities: articles, events, software releases (servers, clients/apps, libraries)... [link] #social #instantmessaging #chat " what illustration?

maybe add a "Please share" or "Please Retweet"?

I've just pushed "the button" on the newsletter... it is sending now to our 279 subscribers

as a subscriber, I have received it

please merge PR https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/pull/614 and deploy on our blog thanks all! it has been a real team effort, I am glad, it's hard but it works

nyco: how do you want me to provide the translations?

emus, are you affiliated with jabber.de or sth btw?

I have received it.

pep.: no, why?

Just curious

Do you have a venue to expose the translation like we do with jabberfr maybe? I don't know if xmpp.org has multi-lang support(?)

pep.: I dont know what you mean exactly. I have a github account if that help xD

But I can also provide it as plain text in german and maybe spanish

emus: I don't know if xmpp.org can expose one article in multiple languages is what I'm saying

For the French translations we publish it on jabberfr.org

Ahh, okay. now I understand

I can ask the jabber.de guys if they are interested

that would be great

do they have a wiki or some tool to host the translation process?

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no clue, I guess not. tell me what would be ideal for you

I might can arrange

" The XMPP Newsletter is out! Read the latest news from the XMPP/Jabber communities: articles, events, software releases with servers, clients/apps, and services... [link] #social #instantmessaging #chat "

nyco: Jabber.de said they re in 😃

es ist gut!

(that's all my German, sorry...)

so feel free, it's CC by-sa

please tell us when it's published so we can cover it on the next issue :)

Sure, will check out! try to look if I can do it for spanish aswell

that would be awesome

Läuft! 😉

danke schön!

Speaking of the wiki: Would you be open to use an etherpad or something else supporting markdown for collecting the newsletter topics? That would make it a lot easier to transfer it to pelican.

Yeah, I already raised that matter, we need something with history as well, maybe not to collect the topics but at least to write the newsletter

to allow easier collaboration

etherpad is cool, but text not markdown, and does not scale

probably link collection on the wiki, then copywriting on a markdown-friendly collab editor

but I'd rather have contributions, and then move to a new tool rather than people asking for a new tool and we migrate without contributions

nyco: "does not scale"?

no

I've had etherpads pads with tens of users without any issues

For collecting links I'm sure it's good enough

And writing the newsletter

in terms of community management, you don't create an empty space, hoping for spontaneous generation of contributors you start with something that is not optimised, then contributors do their thing, then you optimise the processes and tools

I've had the opposite experience

for now, the newsletter is only a link collection... that's not what a newsletter is supposed to be last month we introduced the specs this month we introduced the license and credits what improvements do you want to bring next month?

btw, if the tools we choose are good, we may host the translations efforts as well

what other local Jabber communities can we ask for translations? jabber.pl (dead)? jabber.ru? jabber.at?

btw, for a collab text editor, it should not only support real markdown, but also inline images

=== Planning === November * 2019-10-28 Mon: copywriting starts * 2019-11-01 Fri: end of submission, PR on GitHub * 2019-11-05 Tue: newsletter publication, blog post, promotion tweets

https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/News_and_Articles_for_the_next_XMPP_Newsletter is ready for November

link collection still done in this wiki page for this month

tool for copywriting in discussion

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Twitter this month

nyco: would put a sum to the top aswell

sum of what? on top of what?

> this month we introduced the license and credits oops, and images

nyco: the absolute numbers

total subscribers

of what?

for example

what are you talking about?

newsletter or Twitter?

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that's the newsletter

and Twitter:

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" The XMPP Newsletter is out! Read the latest news from the XMPP/Jabber communities: articles, events, software releases with servers, clients/apps, and services... https://xmpp.org/2019/10/newsletter-01-october/ #social #instantmessaging #chat "

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tell me if not cool

nyco: your smtwitter stats you summed up in that spreadsheet. but is fine. is only for you

smtwitter what?

sorry, I don't get it

I summed nothing, I reported from https://analytics.twitter.com

the current number of followers are in realtime on:https://twitter.com/xmpp

https://twitter.com/xmpp

Doesnt matter, forget it. I was referencing to the picture from 2:14pm

ok, but why do you want to report it on the metrics?

No, I just thought could improve the overview. but its your thing, no need

it's not only for me, for usall

ok

so I don't know he exact number of followers at any given time

it's not available

only the realtime, and it's on https://twitter.com/xmpp

so what would you want to copy-paste and why?

😄 nyco, is fine. I just had a thought. Doesnt matter

ok...

Apparently my Dino security analysis ( https://gultsch.de/dino_multiple.html ) didn't fall under this definition of relevancy :-/ > The submission must ideally be a blog or article about XMPP/Jabber and/or XMPP-based software (clients, servers, libs)

wat

are you complaining the harsh way, again?

what is wrong with this? > Multiple vulnerabilities have been found in Dino, please update as soon as possible if you are a Dino user.

pointing to... oh wait! https://gultsch.de/dino_multiple.html

As the newsletter is about communication, I think we might can create a "Call" section. something like: Developer XY from App XY is calling for voluntary Chinese translators... or on specific problems. What do you think about it? It might help to exchange knowledge through the network

I like it

Sounds good!

how would we select the calls?

It is a bit complicated I think

If we had previous examples it would be easier.

I rather think, we look what people send. if there are like > 5 Calls, we need a process

if there are only barely people useing it, thats it

I would go first for an announcement that we plan this opportunity