XSF logo XMPP Council - 2010-10-25


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  15. Kev 76 minutes until last Council of term.
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  21. stpeter waves to Kev
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  23. Kev *wave*
  24. Kev I've chased Matt, who's the only person online.
  25. Kev But he's away.
  26. stpeter losers
  27. stpeter we need to elect a new council
  28. stpeter oh, we're doing that today :)
  29. stpeter throw da bums out!
  30. Kev Well, in past years everyone turning up 15mins late has been fairly common.
  31. Kev So we'll give them a few minutes. This year's Council have been slightly more dilligent and punctual than many have been :)
  32. Kev IMHOYMMVIANAL
  33. Tobias heh
  34. Kev I wanted to get my protoXEP approved :(
  35. stpeter were any objections raised?
  36. Kev No, but tonight's the start of the objection period.
  37. stpeter ah!
  38. Kev But only if there's a meeting, which there isn't unless two more people turn up.
  39. stpeter hmph
  40. stpeter yeah
  41. stpeter I'm not seeing people online
  42. Kev Me neither.
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  44. Kev So that's 2/3 of quorum.
  45. remko hidilyho
  46. Kev I think we're fast approaching the point that we just give up.
  47. Kev Matt is online again now...
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  49. Kev Quorum!
  50. MattJ Sorry folks
  51. Kev 1) Roll call.
  52. Kev Kevin, Remko and Matt.
  53. Kev 2) Agenda bashing.
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  55. MattJ None
  56. Kev We now have an 8 minute meeting instead of the usual 30 :)
  57. Kev 3) XEP-0201 (Threads) http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0201.html Advance to Active?
  58. stpeter hehe
  59. MattJ +1 :)
  60. stpeter I suppose the new Council might need to vote on this one anyway
  61. Kev I think this is something that needs to be updated as we get real deployment experience with threads, but I'm fine with it now anyway.
  62. stpeter if the old Council doesn't complete its voting :)
  63. Kev stpeter: I don't think so, we have quorum tonight.
  64. stpeter ah, true
  65. remko +1
  66. Kev So if Ralph and Fritzy don't -1 it in the next fortnight, their votes are +0, and it goes through with a majority.
  67. stpeter "DNV" baby!
  68. Kev 4) XEP-xxxx: Federated MUC for constrained environments http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/fmuc.html Accept as Experimental?
  69. remko +1
  70. MattJ +1 to accepting
  71. Kev I am, obviously, also in favour.
  72. Kev 4) XEP-xxxx: Federated MUC for constrained environments http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/fmuc.html Accept as Experimental?
  73. MattJ I haven't given it a thorough read, but it specs out roughly what I was already thinking was the best approach
  74. Kev Uhm
  75. Kev 5) Procedure: Inviting authors to meetings. Philipp Hancke requests authors be invited, discuss.
  76. Kev MattJ: Right, rooms join rooms, with graceful degradation for slow links.
  77. MattJ First thought: Haven't we discussed this before?
  78. Kev Almost.
  79. Kev We discussed inviting people for accepting protoXEPs.
  80. MattJ Ah, I see
  81. Kev We roughly agreed, I tried it with the first few people who didn't normally turn up anyway, and they said they were too busy.
  82. MattJ Heh
  83. MattJ I think there are two things here
  84. stpeter I'm looking forward to (re-)reading all the fedmuc proposals
  85. Kev Philipp suggested inviting people every time their XEPs were on the agenda. I mostly put it here so it can be an action for next Council to discuss.
  86. MattJ One is whether we notify authors when their spec is on the agenda
  87. Kev As I don't think this Council needs to make a decision on it.
  88. MattJ This seems reasonable, though it could be argued they should follow their specs closer
  89. stpeter maybe we should invite Council members :)
  90. Tobias heh
  91. Kev stpeter: Yes, that might be nice.
  92. MattJ The second is whether we /require/ them to be there, which was also discussed previously - I don't think we need go down that route :)
  93. MattJ stpeter, I'm working on a council bot, FWIW :)
  94. stpeter excellent!
  95. MattJ which will include notifications, and updating the topic
  96. Kev Which will stand for Council 5 times in 2011, doing away with the need for the human factor.
  97. stpeter :)
  98. MattJ :)
  99. paul The ability for arbitrary people to request reminders would be nice, MattJ :)
  100. MattJ +1 to everything
  101. MattJ paul, pubsub? :)
  102. Kev Right, so I'll look forward to this bot, and I'll write an action in the minutes for next Council to discuss.
  103. Kev 6) Thanks all.
  104. paul Sure! :)
  105. MattJ What happened to AOB? :P
  106. remko welcome
  107. Kev So, I'd like to thank the current Council for all their hard work and turning up so diligently :)
  108. Kev 7) Any other business.
  109. stpeter loves that ironic British sense of humour
  110. remko i'ld like to apoligize to the council chair for not turning up very diligently
  111. Kev remko: You are here at the moment...
  112. MattJ I don't /really/ have any AOB, other than my apologies for not turning up last week, which iirc is the only time I have not done so :)
  113. stpeter remko: don't worry, your lifetime pension payments are based on your salary on your final day of employment!
  114. MattJ there wasn't anything I needed to vote on, was there? I did read the logs and it didn't seem that way
  115. stpeter nope
  116. MattJ Good :)
  117. Kev MattJ: No, we elected to last call dialback, and to schedule a vote on threads for this meeting.
  118. MattJ Yep, I'm going to give some feedback on dialback
  119. stpeter now that the bis drafts are done I'm going to get busy on XEPs again -- just warning you all!
  120. Kev So, I think we're all done, and we'll leave it to the next Council to decide when the next meeting is.
  121. MattJ stpeter, yay!
  122. MattJ We've been missing our editor, really
  123. stpeter the next Council will have lots to work on
  124. Kev Thanks, Council of 2009/2010!
  125. Kev bangs the gavel.
  126. remko yaaay
  127. MattJ Thanks chair!
  128. Kev I'll send out some minutes tomorrow.
  129. stpeter thanks, Kev
  130. remko thanks kev
  131. stpeter brb, and see you in the xsf@ room in little while...
  132. MattJ xsf@? or foundation@?
  133. MattJ xsf
  134. MattJ Changes changes :)
  135. Kev xsf@
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  137. ralphm sorry I missed it
  138. ralphm thanks all for this term
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