Wednesday, May 11, 2011
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XMPP Council Room | https://xmpp.org/about/xmpp-standards-foundation#council | Room logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/council/ | https://trello.com/b/ww7zWMlI/xmpp-council-agenda

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[14:41:12] <stpeter> greetings and salutations
[14:43:00] <Kev> Af'noon.
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[14:46:06] <stpeter> BTW I never pushed out the Deprecated editions of XEPs 192 and 193, so I'll do that now
[14:48:47] <stpeter> brb
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[15:00:44] <linuxwolf> /whew
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[15:02:53] <Fritzy> N
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[15:04:03] <linuxwolf> ok, so we doing this thing?
[15:04:16] <Kev> Right.
[15:04:22] <Kev> Sorry, clock's out.
[15:04:31] <linuxwolf> (-:
[15:04:31] <Kev> Let's check if Matt's here.(J)
[15:04:41] <Kev> Nope, doesn't seem so.
[15:04:51] <Kev> Council is always so much more inconvenient when I'm in the office.
[15:04:55] <Kev> Let's go, then.
[15:04:56] <linuxwolf> haha
[15:04:58] <Kev> 1) Roll Call.
[15:05:03] <linuxwolf> presente
[15:05:08] <Kev> I'm here.
[15:05:08] <Fritzy> here
[15:05:35] <Kev> Ralph was here a moment ago, so I assume he's still here.
[15:05:52] <Kev> 2) Agenda bashing
(Only thing is discussing what Peter would like us to discuss about 220)
[15:06:11] <ralphm> i am
[15:06:43] <Kev> I guess that's a "No" to bashing.
[15:06:45] <Kev> So.
[15:06:50] <Kev> 3) XEP-0220.
[15:07:12] <linuxwolf> I've been trying to corner some of our experts
[15:07:13] <Kev> There was some heated discussion on this, leading to (or from) removing lots of examples from the XEP.
[15:07:31] <Fritzy> saw that
[15:07:42] <ralphm> hm
[15:07:48] <ralphm> because they were bad?
[15:08:05] <linuxwolf> confusing, and buggy
[15:08:22] <Kev> ralphm: ISTR the examples previously covered dialback in both directions, and had bugs. Peter changed them to only cover the one-way case.
[15:08:47] <stpeter> right
[15:08:51] <Kev> Peter wanted us to rediscuss this.
[15:08:56] <Kev> Ah, and he's here, hoorah.
[15:09:05] <Kev> stpeter: What desireth thou of thine Council?
[15:09:12] <stpeter> sure, just multitasking here
[15:09:25] <stpeter> well, I think folks need to review the spec again / revote
[15:09:31] <Fritzy> ok
[15:09:37] <linuxwolf> /nod
[15:09:40] <Kev> This is voting on moving through to Draft, right?
[15:09:51] <stpeter> yes
[15:10:18] <Kev> I've never touched the DB code, I'll ask the guys here what they think.
[15:10:19] <Fritzy> I propose we do that next meeting then.
[15:10:36] <linuxwolf> I need to corner some of our experts, and have them do a once-over
[15:11:11] <Kev> Alrighty.
[15:11:31] <stpeter> Fritzy: WFM
[15:11:52] <Kev> So next week I'll agendaise (!) a vote to Draft on XEP-0220.
[15:12:04] <stpeter> given that there was controversy, I wanted to make sure that folks find the current version acceptable
[15:12:04] <Kev> 4) Date of next meeting
Next week as usual?
[15:12:12] <linuxwolf> WFM
[15:12:22] <Fritzy> WFM?
[15:12:27] <linuxwolf> works for me
[15:12:30] <Fritzy> ah
[15:12:34] <stpeter> about XEP-0178, shall I "publish" another revision?
[15:12:35] <Kev> Whisky Foxtrot Mike.
[15:12:42] <Fritzy> That
[15:12:50] <stpeter> (to incorporate Council feedback)
[15:12:51] <linuxwolf> Fritzy: RTFM about TLAs, MF (-:
[15:12:51] <Kev> stpeter: I'm happy for you to publish with the discussed changes.
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[15:12:59] <stpeter> Kev: will do now
[15:13:10] <linuxwolf> grazie
[15:13:17] <Kev> 5) Any other business.
[15:13:28] <Fritzy> notta
[15:13:30] <linuxwolf> not this week
[15:13:37] <stpeter> none here
[15:13:38] <Fritzy> I'm going to catch up on email and voting today.
[15:13:39] <Kev> There's a few hours left for 178 feedback from people other than linuxwolf and myself.
[15:13:55] <Kev> (Well, technically the voting period ended 13minutes ago, but nevermind)
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[15:14:21] <Kev> I guess we're done for this week then.
[15:14:23] <Kev> Thanks all!
[15:14:25] <linuxwolf> eh, call it end-of-day (+11:00) (-:
[15:14:38] *Kev bangs the gavel.
[15:14:40] <linuxwolf> nice and short
[15:14:42] <linuxwolf> w00t
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[15:15:03] <Fritzy> ciao
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[15:15:11] *stpeter updates 178 in git
[15:15:17] *linuxwolf invokes XEP-0132
[15:15:19] <linuxwolf> adios
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[15:17:00] <stpeter> http://xmpp.org/extensions/tmp/xep-0178-1.1.html updated
[15:17:29] <Kev> Ta.
[15:20:08] <stpeter> see also http://xmpp.org/extensions/diff/api/xep/0178/diff/1.0/vs/1.1rc7
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[15:24:51] <stpeter> Kev: calendar updated
[15:25:11] <Kev> Thanks.
[15:25:27] <stpeter> except calgen.py is still throwing an error on "/xsf-extensions.ics"
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[15:27:04] <Kev> Oh well :)
[15:29:39] <stpeter> it's an XML parsing problem, let's see where that is coming from...
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[15:43:14] <stpeter> fixed
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