Wednesday, March 07, 2012
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XMPP Council Room | https://xmpp.org/about/xmpp-standards-foundation#council | Room logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/council/ | https://trello.com/b/ww7zWMlI/xmpp-council-agenda

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[15:53:48] <ralphm> Hi!
[15:53:54] <stpeter> hallo Ralph!
[15:54:13] <Kev> Hi.
[15:54:28] <Tobias> hi
[15:54:34] <Kev> Well remembered, I'm trying to rebuild my router on a USB stick, as the 2.5inch internal hard drive failed and I don't have a spare.
[15:54:42] <linuxwolf> /-:
[15:56:01] <Kev> You might ask why I need a Linux router, in addition to my ISP's - and that's because I have vaguely complicated multiple-subnet setups where some subnets can route over NAT over a VPN into Isode, while my wife's games machine, the X-Box etc. can't.
[15:56:09] <Kev> As well as faking DNS, naturally :)
[15:56:12] <stpeter> heh
[15:56:29] <linuxwolf> actually, I assumed it was because you are a Geek, and have need/want of something more
[15:56:30] <linuxwolf> (-:
[15:56:38] <ralphm> stpeter: were you aware of http://sipsimpleclient.com/wiki/DesignXMPP
[15:56:51] <stpeter> ralphm: no
[15:57:25] <ralphm> Adrian Georgescu passed me a note about Wokkel being chosen for the project.
[15:57:36] <stpeter> nice
[15:57:57] <ralphm> And this appears to be a NLNet thing
[15:59:26] <stpeter> aha
[15:59:33] <stpeter> yeah, they are interested in such projects
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[15:59:49] <Tobias> http://nlnet.nl/project/current.html interesting...they also funded a DNSSEC for Jitsi project
[16:00:05] <stpeter> ralphm: is Adrian working on that?
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[16:00:33] *stpeter notes that they link to the old gatewaying specs
[16:00:41] <stpeter> perhaps someday we'll finish those off
[16:00:50] <ralphm> stpeter: yes. ag-projects is his thing (note the initials)
[16:01:00] <ralphm> stpeter: http://www.nlnet.nl/project/xmpp-sip/ is the NLNet page
[16:01:25] <stpeter> thanks for the pointer
[16:01:40] <Kev> Right.
[16:01:47] <Kev> Nothing to discuss, so let's abort quickly.
[16:01:48] <Kev> 1) Roll call.
[16:01:50] <Kev> I'm here.
[16:01:53] <stpeter> might be related to http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ivov-xmpp-cusax-00.txt
[16:01:54] <linuxwolf> presente
[16:01:58] <MattJ> Here
[16:02:09] <Tobias> here
[16:02:30] <Kev> And given he's mid conversation, Ralph probably is too :)
[16:02:41] <Kev> I'm not wrong about having no agenda items for today am I?
[16:02:47] <ralphm> haha
[16:02:55] <linuxwolf> nothing that I saw
[16:03:00] <MattJ> 172 perhaps, but we can push it off for a week - I haven't looked at it
[16:03:10] <Kev> I thought Peter asked for 172 for next week.
[16:03:15] <MattJ> I again assumed no-agenda-no-meeting
[16:03:28] <Kev> MattJ: I was quite clear on-list, I think :)
[16:03:29] <ralphm> Kev: you're on the internet. Of course you are wrong
[16:03:31] <MattJ> I think he probably assumed the same :)
[16:03:44] <linuxwolf> ralphm: obviously
[16:04:10] <Kev> Ok then.
[16:04:12] <Kev> 2) Date of next meeting
[16:04:15] <Kev> Week today?
[16:04:19] <linuxwolf> wfm
[16:04:21] <Tobias> sure
[16:04:25] <ralphm> +1
[16:04:29] <MattJ> +1
[16:04:36] <Kev> 3) AOB?
[16:04:36] <stpeter> I like to have a meeting, even if it's a no-meeting meeting
[16:04:40] <stpeter> :)
[16:04:40] <linuxwolf> none from me
[16:04:49] <stpeter> I got nothin'
[16:05:09] <MattJ> Likewise
[16:05:11] <Tobias> dito
[16:05:13] *linuxwolf waits for gavel
[16:05:13] <ralphm> stpeter: I too like the feeling of having accomplished something :-)
[16:05:17] <Kev> Excellent. See you good chaps next week.
[16:05:18] <Kev> Thanks all
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[16:05:48] <MattJ> Oh well, I'm fine with anything consistent :)
[16:06:02] <MattJ> Otherwise I find it hard to keep up
[16:06:20] <Kev> I'm trying to be consistent.
[16:06:32] <MattJ> But if we're on Wednesdays and into agenda-free meetings now, I'm fine
[16:06:44] <MattJ> You're all just conspiring to confuse me
[16:06:56] *stpeter update the calendar
[16:07:04] <Kev> Thanks Peter.
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[16:19:54] <ralphm> MattJ: I'm still curious about the confusement. We just meet every week in the same timeslot (now) and sometimes we declare it over pretty soon.
[16:20:16] <stpeter> ralphm: I think we did Tuesday for a few weeks
[16:20:27] <ralphm> now /that/ was confusing :-D
[16:20:33] <stpeter> :)
[16:20:41] <MattJ> Indeed, apparently it wasn't permanent - I thought it was
[16:20:51] <MattJ> My mistake, but confusing
[16:21:10] <MattJ> and surely I didn't imagine all the weeks we've skipped meetings due to having nothing on the agenda?
[16:21:19] <ralphm> seriously though, thanks to having someone keeping the ics in sync, my exo-corteces take care of the rest.
[16:21:48] <Kev> MattJ: No, we've done that in the past. It then occurred to me that maybe it's better to maintain momentum and meet anyway.
[16:22:12] <MattJ> Sure, and I probably prefer that too
[16:22:24] <MattJ> It's just the transition I can't deal with :)
[16:22:39] <MattJ> and I didn't see a conscious decision to change this on the mailing list
[16:22:59] <Kev> I suggested, no-one objected.
[16:23:05] <MattJ> I guess I missed that
[16:23:18] <MattJ> But like I said, I'm fine with it
[16:23:36] <Kev> You even replied to the mail in which I suggested it :)
[16:23:47] <MattJ> I was waiting for you to say something like that
[16:24:00] *MattJ sighs
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[16:25:34] <stpeter> :)
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