Wednesday, August 29, 2012
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XMPP Council Room | https://xmpp.org/about/xmpp-standards-foundation#council | Room logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/council/ | https://trello.com/b/ww7zWMlI/xmpp-council-agenda

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[14:53:37] <stpeter> howdy
[14:53:46] <Kev> Evening.
[14:56:00] <stpeter> brb
[14:56:20] <ralphm> hi
[14:56:34] <ralphm> Kev: and it is not evening
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[15:05:40] <Kev> Right, it's time.
[15:05:50] <ralphm> Present
[15:05:52] <Kev> 1) Roll call
[15:06:06] <m&m> presente
[15:07:23] <MattJ> Presents
[15:08:20] <Kev> Tobias?
[15:08:24] <Tobias> yes?
[15:09:42] <Kev> Waiting for a 'present'
[15:09:46] <Kev> Anyway.
[15:09:50] <Kev> Do we have anything to discuss?
[15:09:50] <Tobias> present
[15:09:54] *stpeter sends Kev a present
[15:10:14] <m&m> not that I know of
[15:11:20] <stpeter> I mentioned the security notice about dialback
[15:11:37] <stpeter> do Council members think that was handled acceptably?
[15:11:59] <ralphm> I believe that it was done with care
[15:12:10] <Kev> I was happy enough.
[15:12:34] <m&m> I thought it was acceptable
[15:12:58] <ralphm> Do we have any things we'd want to do differently next time?
[15:13:15] <Kev> It'd be worth being clear what public exposure would be.
[15:13:26] <stpeter> I think we might want to make it clearer exactly what the ground rules are -- there was a bit of controversy about a code check-in
[15:13:31] *stpeter nods to Kev
[15:13:31] <Kev> My understanding was that no-one was to push fixes publicly.
[15:13:47] <stpeter> Kev: right, I probably did not make that clear enough
[15:13:49] <ralphm> I thought it was pretty clear
[15:14:01] <stpeter> OK
[15:14:11] <stpeter> well, something to improve upon, then
[15:14:26] <Kev> I also thought that it would have been worthwhile to list the versions involved for the 'people who had discovered this previously'.
[15:14:29] <ralphm> stpeter: but I guess one can't force people to not commit things
[15:14:45] <Kev> ralphm: No, but the deal was that if anyone did break the rules they wouldn't get advanced notification in the future.
[15:14:49] <Kev> Which seems reasonable to me.
[15:14:52] <stpeter> also, not all Council members are on the special list I created for server developers -- perhaps it would be appropriate to include all Council members (although membership changes over time)
[15:15:01] <ralphm> Kev: true
[15:15:09] <Kev> Yes, all Council should be on it.
[15:15:32] <stpeter> Kev: I think you're right, my bad
[15:16:03] <stpeter> I'll just need to update the mailing list subscribers if Councilor changes occur, not a big deal
[15:16:45] <m&m> /nod
[15:16:49] <Kev> OK, anything else?
[15:17:00] <ralphm> but yeah, making it even more explicit about not committing would be cool
[15:17:22] <ralphm> who of the council plans to attend the xmpp summit?
[15:17:32] <Kev> I'm hoping to get sent. I need to talk to Dave about that.
[15:18:20] <stpeter> suggestions welcome regarding topics for the summit in October, it does look as if I'll arrange for 2 days and we'll work out the topics on the summit@ list (one of which will be about internet-of-things and related stuff)
[15:18:21] <ralphm> unfortunately I have to be back in .nl on the 27th, so I'll be flying out on the 26th
[15:18:42] <m&m> I'll need to find out
[15:19:19] <ralphm> If wonder how many people interested in going the xmpp summit are also interested in redis
[15:19:32] <Kev> I'm not.
[15:19:32] <stpeter> Fritzy for sure :)
[15:19:49] <Kev> Or not interested in a significant way, at least.
[15:20:18] <ralphm> I'm not anyway
[15:21:09] <stpeter> ok
[15:21:21] <ralphm> i.e. I was planning on getting in on the 22nd, but could change that maybe
[15:21:30] <stpeter> we'll poll some folks about that and I'll start to advertise the summit a bit more widely
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[15:21:52] <ralphm> having something on the krtconf pages would be great, too
[15:22:23] <ralphm> Get your early bird tickets for a mere $0!
[15:22:47] <stpeter> ralphm: yes, will follow up with them about that :)
[15:22:50] <Kev> OK, so we're done?
[15:22:53] <Kev> Date of next meeting:
[15:22:59] <Kev> I'm good next week, I'm not the week after.
[15:23:23] <ralphm> lets just do next week
[15:23:25] <ralphm> '
[15:24:01] <m&m> wfm
[15:24:09] <stpeter> ok
[15:24:23] <stpeter> oh
[15:24:25] <stpeter> that reminds me
[15:24:39] <stpeter> I need to talk with Alex about Council elections
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[15:24:52] <ralphm> oh right
[15:24:54] <stpeter> otherwise you guys will be serving permanently ;-)
[15:24:56] <m&m> it is that time
[15:25:03] <ralphm> it's funny how that has drifted over the years
[15:25:06] <stpeter> yeah
[15:25:08] <stpeter> wel
[15:25:09] <stpeter> well
[15:25:10] <m&m> no kidding
[15:25:19] <stpeter> August is a busy time, lots of people on vacations, etc.
[15:25:49] <ralphm> stpeter: I am already part of the furniture, so what's an extra month?
[15:26:10] <stpeter> :)
[15:26:12] <stpeter> ok
[15:26:17] <Kev> So that's really it?
[15:26:21] <stpeter> I'll reach out to Alex about it
[15:26:25] <stpeter> Kev: yes, sir!
[15:26:30] <Kev> Excellent.
[15:26:39] <Kev> Right, thanks all.
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[15:26:46] <ralphm> Thank you!
[15:28:39] <m&m> gracias
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