Tuesday, October 30, 2012
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XMPP Council Room | https://xmpp.org/about/xmpp-standards-foundation#council | Room logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/council/ | https://trello.com/b/ww7zWMlI/xmpp-council-agenda

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[19:01:11] <Tobias> what'd be the recommended procedure for new XEPs that use protocol described in deprecated XEPs?
[19:01:22] <stpeter> hmm
[19:01:22] <m&m> hrm
[19:01:25] <stpeter> good question
[19:01:42] <m&m> it probably depends on how the deprecated XEP made it there?
[19:01:42] <stpeter> which deprecated XEP?
[19:02:03] <Tobias> let me look it up from a conversation..one sec
[19:03:21] <stpeter> ok
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[19:03:41] <Tobias>
http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0265.html
[19:03:42] <Kanchil> Tobias: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0265.html:
XEP-0265: Out-of-Band Stream Data
[19:03:46] <Tobias> that's the one
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[20:39:53] <Tobias> so?
[20:42:36] <stpeter> Tobias: sorry, I was in a video chat for the last 90 minutes...
[20:43:14] <Tobias> those hip kids with their fancy technology
[20:43:51] <stpeter> BTW, XEP-0265 is only deferred, not deprecated -- there's an important difference between "this went idle" and "this was a bad idea and we're phasing it out" :)
[20:44:37] <Tobias> ahh...rigth...misrememberd that
[20:46:55] <Tobias> and what's the recommended procedure in this case? have the author get the deferred XEP get active again?
[20:48:01] <stpeter> or have someone volunteer to take over maintainership
[20:51:10] <Kev> Tobias: Why do you want to resurrect 265?
[20:51:30] <Tobias> i don't, but someone writing a proto-XEP wants :)
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[21:08:19] <stpeter> timezone changes are endlessly confusing -- I'm trying to figure out what the time will be UTC during an IETF WG session next Tuesday in Atlanta, after daylight saving time is done :)
[21:20:52] <Zash> Kill them with fire!
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[21:33:21] <Tobias> stpeter, i though you've reduced your IETF time?
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[22:12:11] <stpeter> Tobias: I did, but I'm still trying to extract myself from some commitments and people keep asking me to do things (like co-chair the BoF on video codecs so we don't all use H.264 forever!)
[22:12:56] <Tobias> so just use vp8 and let google pay eventual license fees :)
[22:13:37] <stpeter> right, the video-codec effort will attempt to standarize an open audio codec, much as we did for audio with the Opus effort
[22:14:11] <stpeter> I co-chaired the audio codec BoF, so people thought I might be a good person to co-chair the video-codec BoF :)
[22:14:13] <stpeter> brb
[22:18:06] <Tobias> heh
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