Tuesday, May 28, 2013
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XMPP Council Room | http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xmpp-council/ | Room logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/council/ | https://trello.com/b/ww7zWMlI/xmpp-council-agenda

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[11:52:48] <Tobias> no council meeting tomorrow?
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[12:58:55] <Kev> I believe we agreed that there would be, but that I'd potentially be late.
[13:01:42] <Tobias> E_MISSINGAGENDA
[13:01:59] <Tobias> is it mostly that spec we forgot to advance?
[13:03:03] <Kev> Yes.
[13:05:56] <Tobias> ok
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[13:15:33] <Tobias> m&m, there?
[13:16:44] <m&m> yes, now
[13:17:44] <Tobias> short question you might have an answer to: what's the current action in the xmpp wg? are we basically waiting for reviews/implementation feedback on the DNA (and its related docs)?
[13:18:01] <m&m> wrt DNA, yes
[13:18:26] <Tobias> the only other WG item is XMPP address format-bis if i see correctly
[13:18:36] <m&m> e2e
[13:18:46] <m&m> addressing, DNA, E2E
[13:19:06] <m&m> E2E is pending output from JOSE
[13:19:42] <Tobias> yeah..i saw that on the ML but i don't see it under active items
[13:20:04] <Tobias> POSH also requires JOSE, not?
[13:20:14] <m&m> it hasn't been accepted as a WG .. yet
[13:20:19] <Tobias> ahh..ok
[13:20:29] <m&m> POSH does, although the dependency there is rather minor
[13:21:47] <Tobias> totally fogot about E2E...so many ways to do it
[13:22:18] <Tobias> *forgot
[13:24:26] <m&m> (-:
[13:24:49] <m&m> and all of them are broken in various different aspects
[13:24:58] <Tobias> hooray
[13:33:29] <Tobias> m&m, minutes of the last session doesn't include anything JOSE related...on what exactly are we wainting there?
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[13:53:31] <m&m> pretty much all of JOSE's items … given draft-miller-xmpp-e2e is dependent on JWK, JWE, and JWS (which in turn are dependent on JWA)
[13:54:29] <m&m> that missing from the notes probably has more to do with the XMPP session being the last hour of the last day of a 6-day schedule
[13:54:52] <m&m> you get kind of punchy at the end (-:
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[14:15:14] <Tobias> ahh..thanks for the clarification
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[15:29:02] <Lance> m&m: ready to last call carbons? Adium/pidgin finally added support for it for the next release
[15:29:38] <m&m> yay!
[15:29:45] <m&m> and I think so ...
[15:30:01] <Lance> 297 should advance today, so might was well start lc
[15:30:13] <m&m> not today … tomorrow
[15:30:14] <m&m> (-:
[15:30:18] <Lance> ah
[15:30:24] <m&m> the meeting is tomorrow
[15:30:48] <Lance> oi, my mental time is messed up
[15:30:54] <m&m> (-:
[15:31:02] <m&m> Holidays can do that to you
[15:32:32] <Kev> Did people send the feedback they promised on 297? I've not checked yet.
[15:32:43] <Lance> Kev: I did
[15:32:55] <MattJ> Yes
[15:33:10] <Kev> Coo.l
[15:35:48] <m&m> I did also
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[15:40:27] <Tobias> Lance, who implemented carbons for libpurple?
[15:40:50] <Lance> xnyhps
[15:40:51] <MattJ> Tobias, xnyhps I think?
[15:41:31] <Lance> he showed off the commits in the prosody room a few days ago
[15:42:54] <Tobias> nice
[15:43:44] <Tobias> i should update my idle / last-online specs and poke him to implement those too...they are quite small
[15:49:02] <Lance> MattJ you know that MAM technically ought to be marked deferred now, right? If you need help tidying up the latest draft so it can published, let me know
[15:49:41] <MattJ> Lance, it would be really helpful if you, Zash and myself could discuss it at some point
[15:49:54] <Lance> ok
[15:50:02] <MattJ> Your RSM patch clears one of my outstanding issues
[15:50:44] <Lance> when would be a good time?
[15:51:15] <MattJ> What timezone are you in?
[15:51:29] <Lance> US West coast. -07:00
[15:51:44] <MattJ> Worst possible then :)
[15:51:47] <MattJ> How are you for weekends?
[15:51:52] <Lance> of course
[15:52:00] <Lance> weekends are good
[15:52:32] <MattJ> This weekend isn't good for me, but next should be fine
[15:53:04] <MattJ> What's the best email address for you?
[15:53:09] <Lance> lancestout@gmail.com
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[19:21:58] <Kev> I'm fairly interested in MAM.
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