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XMPP Council Room | https://xmpp.org/about/xmpp-standards-foundation#council | Room logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/council/ | https://trello.com/b/ww7zWMlI/xmpp-council-agenda

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[08:39:14] <Dave Cridland> MattJ, I can also not remind you when the Council meeting doesn't happen, so you'll not get an extra reminder that you don't normally have. That should help.
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[08:47:27] <fippo> dave, careful, otherwise i'll ask you to test the videobridge for the board meeting :-p
[08:47:49] <Dave Cridland> You're suggesting it'll have the same effect?
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[08:51:19] <fippo> you can yell at matt ;-)
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[08:52:31] <Dave Cridland> Well, I need to not yell at Matt. At precisely the right time.
[08:52:39] <Dave Cridland> SO as long as it doesn't work, I could use that.
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[09:33:44] <fippo> dave: i'm wondering whether I should my raise my hand...
[09:34:46] <Dave Cridland> Depends whether you like writing position papers.
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[09:37:29] <fippo> it depends more on whether I need more work ;-)
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[09:47:14] <Kev> I'm fairly sure I don't need more work.
[09:47:25] <Kev> Or, at least, I don't recognise what needing more work would look like.
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[15:39:15] <stpeter> IIRC there is no Council meeting today, right?
[15:40:01] <Tobias> right
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[16:08:20] <Kev> Correct.
[16:08:32] <Kev> Because I can't make it. Except I probably can, now, but I wasn't going to be able to.
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[16:09:39] <MattJ> Thanks so much
[16:09:45] <Kev> Oh, you've done that too.
[16:09:48] <Kev> I sent a PM :)
[16:12:16] <bear> Lance is on a plane to Denver, but that is a moot point as the meeting was already not scheduled
[16:12:30] <stpeter> Lance is going to be in Denver?
[16:12:40] <stpeter> it's snowing like crazy here, I hope he can land
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[16:15:23] <bear> it's a stop on his way back home
[16:16:29] <stpeter> good luck to Lance, then!
[16:17:00] <stpeter> it seems that the Council and Board will need to name some liaisons soon
[16:17:13] <stpeter> UPnP, ISO TC 122, IEC TC 57
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[16:18:49] <Peter Waher> I volunteer. I already work with Craig in ISO TC 122, and was invited to take part in the UPnP WG as well. (Just have to sign and file the 22 page membership contract.)
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[16:21:39] <stpeter> the liaison agreement is only 10 pages :P
[16:22:15] <Peter Waher> :)
[16:22:44] <Dave Cridland> We should probably call for some volunteers, actually, lest we end up with only the usual suspects.
[16:22:49] *stpeter nods
[16:23:14] <Kev> I think some of the usual suspects would be appropriate.
[16:23:42] <stpeter> heh
[16:23:46] <Kev> (Not saying exclusively)
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[16:29:36] <Dave Cridland> Kev, Right, it's more to see if someone interesting crawls from the proverbial woodwork.
[16:29:50] <Dave Cridland> Not saying the usual suspects aren't interesting, of course.
[16:32:50] <Peter Waher> will there be a council meeting today?
[16:33:07] <stpeter> Peter Waher: none scheduled
[16:33:30] <Peter Waher> ok, is it scheduled for next week?
[16:33:32] <fippo> thought it might be worth mentioning http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/stox/current/msg00397.html -- i basically volunteered an hour ago
[16:33:54] <stpeter> Peter Waher: yes
[16:34:15] <Peter Waher> (y)
[16:34:23] <stpeter> fippo: volunteered for reviewing the specs? I thought you already reviewed them...
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[16:34:42] <fippo> stpeter: you know I always find new errors (-:
[16:34:56] <stpeter> yeah, you're good at that
[16:35:18] <Peter Waher> ok, are there any questions or comments regarding the eventlogging or dynamic forms proposals?
[16:35:39] <Peter Waher> somebody mentioned they would return comments on the dynamic forms proposal on list, during last meeting
[16:37:27] <stpeter> fippo pointed out the namespace issue, and also with XEP-0331, but we can fix those easily
[16:37:42] <fippo> right. and with those fixed i'm +1
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[16:44:06] <Peter Waher> "namespace issue"?
[16:44:13] <Peter Waher> Must have missed a mail
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[16:44:49] <stpeter> Peter Waher: we don't mint jabber.org namespaces any longer
[16:45:06] <stpeter> http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2013-December/028313.html
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[16:46:38] <Peter Waher> ah, ok
[16:46:56] <Peter Waher> What namespaces should I use?
[16:47:02] <Peter Waher> "I will work with the authors to mint proper XMPP URNs for these extensions."
[16:47:06] <fippo> ah, I didn't cc standards@
[16:47:52] <stpeter> Peter Waher: urn:xmpp:foo stuff - see XEP-0053
[16:49:00] <Peter Waher> so: "urn:xmpp:xdata-color" ok?
[16:49:12] <Peter Waher> and "urn:xmpp:xdata-dynamic" ?
[16:49:22] <Peter Waher> or do you prefer a : instead of - ?
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[16:49:38] <stpeter> those would be fine
[16:49:48] <Peter Waher> "urn:xmpp:xdata:color" and "urn:xmpp:xdata:dynamic" ?
[16:50:27] <stpeter> I don't think it particularly matters whether we use "-" or ":"
[16:50:34] <Peter Waher> (y)
[16:50:53] <Peter Waher> I'll update the proposals and send them to the list
[16:50:57] <Peter Waher> Anything else?
[16:51:02] <stpeter> see http://xmpp.org/registrar/namespaces.html
[16:51:13] <Dave Cridland> I wonder if -%29 is legal as a URN segment.
[16:51:17] <stpeter> I have the slightest preference for ':'
[16:51:27] <stpeter> since we do that for some of the jingle namespaces
[16:51:54] <Peter Waher> (y)
[16:52:01] <Tobias> yup..consistency would be nice
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