Friday, December 13, 2013
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XMPP Council Room | https://xmpp.org/about/xmpp-standards-foundation#council | Room logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/council/ | https://trello.com/b/ww7zWMlI/xmpp-council-agenda

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[09:06:48] <fippo> kev: jingle-grouping fixed, didn't include rfc example. now for the other one...
[09:07:10] <Kev> Ta.
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[09:39:28] <fippo> no minutes yet?
[09:39:38] <Kev> No, I'm going to try to get to them this morning.
[09:39:39] *fippo will reply to the agenda with votes
[09:39:48] <Kev> Have sympathy for the poor overworked Kev :)
[09:40:00] <Kev> Actually, my meeting's delayed, I'll try to get them done now.
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[21:55:26] <Lance> Is the reasoning behind Peter's approach with IM tables correct?
[21:55:30] <Lance> We said a new XEP with discovery would be needed, but did that preclude extending the content allowed in html-im?
[21:56:13] <Lance> my understanding was probably wrong, but I thought we'd go with a new XEP that just said tables are ok to add, and here's a namespace to use in disco to say you support it
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[22:26:43] <ralphm> Lance: I thought the same.
[22:29:32] <ralphm> Lance: there are two issues, I think: 1) HTML-IM should be amended to allow such extensions. 2) Is the default fallback (just rendering the cdata) good enough when requiring disco?
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[23:17:46] <Lance> for 2, i'd have to say best effort rendering of the table data into plain text
[23:18:22] <Lance> and that'll have to be good enough, because it gets *very* messy very quickly
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