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XMPP Council Room | http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xmpp-council/ | Room logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/council/ | https://trello.com/b/ww7zWMlI/xmpp-council-agenda

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[14:12:24] <Kev> Yes/no?
[14:13:45] <jonasw> maybe
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[15:48:04] <Ge0rG> Looks like it's almost meeting time
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[16:01:47] <Ge0rG> On IRC one used to send a verbatim ^G to notify everyone.
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[16:02:45] <Kev> Dave: *poke*
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[16:04:10] <Ge0rG> Do we have a backup chair?
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[16:04:46] <Kev> We don't actually have an agenda, and the two of us wouldn't be quorum anyway.
[16:05:15] <Ge0rG> I have some AOB
[16:05:49] <Kev> It's five past, and no-one else has shown signs of life, so I think we just call it for this week.
[16:05:51] <Ge0rG> #1 Get rid of origin-id
- can we just delete it altogether without a namespace bump, or do we need to leave a tombstone in the XEP?
[16:06:35] <Ge0rG> #2 Rename XEP-0393 to Markright and 0394 to Markleft.
The authors were opposed, so I want to bring that to council.
[16:07:25] <Kev> Better on list anyway, I suspect anyway for #1. And for #2 just ... what?
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[16:07:51] <dwd> Ooops. Sorry. In the office, hence entirely distracted.
[16:08:31] <Kev> Just after I sent the mail saying we skipped the meeting because of a lack of quorum :p
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[16:08:59] <Ge0rG> Kev: 0393 is using ">" as a character for quotes, thus right. And 0394 is using xml elements for markup, thus many "<", thus "left"
[16:09:05] <SamWhited> I've been here, just waiting for a meeting to start
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[16:45:08] <daniel> Oh sorry. Was in a coding tunnel and nobody mentioned me
[16:45:29] <daniel> Didn't look like we had a meeting anyway
[16:45:31] <MattJ> Bot-coding time
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[16:47:17] <daniel> I think I won't make the next two meetings by the way. Both Wednesdays I'll either by on a plane or in a terrible jet lag. I haven't done the time zone math yet
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[16:48:02] <daniel> It's Asia so the I think it's gonna be in the middle of the night when you have your meeting
[16:48:05] <Zash> Sending out an invite for meetings is a thing I've been meaning to write. But then I got distracted.
[16:48:19] <daniel> But I'll vote on list afterwards
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[16:52:42] <dwd> daniel: There'll be the first two CFEs coming through then for Advance-to-Final. If there's a reason you're likely to vote against (or, even more so, veto) then letting the standards list know would be great.
[16:53:20] <daniel> dwd: ok
[16:54:23] <SamWhited> We should have the next two to consider for CFE in that meeting as well
[16:54:35] <SamWhited> So that we don't do one tiny thing, wait a week, do a thing, wait two weeks…
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[17:27:17] <dwd> The Editors can kick off the CFEs as they see fit, I'm not averse to getting another two in flight at this point.
[17:27:56] <jonasw> dwd, good point
[17:27:59] <jonasw> I have it in my calender
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[17:28:18] <jonasw> didn’t realize it was wednesday already
[17:29:05] <jonasw> done
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[17:59:23] <SamWhited> Oh yah, right, I forgot we don't actually have to vote on that. Excellent.
[17:59:33] <SamWhited> Thanks jonasw
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