XMPP Council - 2018-05-02


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  176. Dave I've spent the last 24 hours, it seems in meetings (last one last night finished at 10pm), and I have more to go - I'm sadly going to miss this week again.
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  184. Kev So, without Dave, who've we got?
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  186. Ge0rG !
  187. Kev That's two. Anyone else?
  188. jonasw daniel, SamWhited?
  189. daniel I'm. Here
  190. SamWhited oops, partially here.
  191. SamWhited heading to my desk now.
  192. Kev Not that we have agenda, but, you know, quorum :)
  193. Kev 1) Roll call I think we've done this
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  196. Kev I can't see anything obvious on the mailing list either.
  197. jonasw has the xep-0050 debate been resolveds
  198. Kev So 2) Date of next Next Wed?
  199. jonasw *resolved?
  200. SamWhited WFM
  201. Kev jonasw: Not exactly, but it's that neither of the curretn patches are getting merged.
  202. Kev And I think you've skipped to AOB early ;)
  203. jonasw Kev, I thought it’s AOB -> Date of next, not Date of next -> AOB, sorry :)
  204. Ge0rG I'd like to discuss 0050 some more indeed.
  205. Kev Anyway, no-one's complaining about SBTSBC, so
  206. Kev 3) AOB
  207. Ge0rG I'm pretty sure I won't be able to attend next week
  208. Kev No other AOB?
  209. Ge0rG Re 0050: the original design of having both an action and an attribute for what is the default action is sub-optimal.
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  211. daniel none from my side
  212. Kev Ge0rG: Yes, that's why Dave's suggested, and I've agreed with, nuking it.
  213. Ge0rG Kev: nuking the default action, you mean?
  214. Kev If no-one here's disagreeing, I think we just need to move ahead and someone write words.
  215. Ge0rG it was brought up that it would be a breaking change.
  216. Kev All options are a breaking change at this point.
  217. Ge0rG And also that the <execute> action is still needed for initiating the flow
  218. Kev Becuase the current text is broken.
  219. Kev Yes.
  220. Kev So you'd have <execute> as the initiator, and not afterwards.
  221. Ge0rG I suppose I could live with that.
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  223. Ge0rG The current text is broken, but maybe there are already in-the-wild workarounds around its brokenness, which we would be breaking.
  224. Kev I think we can easily leave a note explaining what the old text said about <execute/> as a non-initiator, so implementations can be aware and do what they want to deal with that.
  225. Ge0rG great!
  226. Kev But this whole thread was started by the observation that things are broken in the wild because of the current text, so I think we do need to fix something.
  227. Ge0rG Yeah.
  228. Kev Anyone else for anything else?
  229. Kev I'll take that as a "no". Thanks all.
  230. Ge0rG Thanks Kev
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