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XMPP Council Room | https://xmpp.org/about/xmpp-standards-foundation#council | Room logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/council/ | https://trello.com/b/ww7zWMlI/xmpp-council-agenda

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[13:57:14] <Zash> Soon?
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[14:07:41] <Ge0rG> Sooner than yesterday in any case
[14:08:37] <Zash> Timezones, how do they work*
[14:08:44] <Zash> Timezones, how do they work?
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[14:40:59] <SamWhited> driving and may be a tiny bit late or unrespinsive, shouldn't be too long though
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[15:01:24] <Ge0rG> !summon Dave
[15:02:38] <SamWhited> Perfect; I am off the road and responsive again!
[15:03:41] <daniel> Hi
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[15:06:47] <Ge0rG> It looks like we have no Kev and no Dave, so we are 3/5. Do we have an agenda volunteer?
[15:07:27] <Ge0rG> #1 Is it Role Call or Roll Call?
[15:08:42] <Ge0rG> We have Sam, Daniel and Georg. Kev promised to probably skip this one, if my log doesn't lie.
[15:09:23] <Ge0rG> No wait, my log is a lie. Or rather, it's way too old.
[15:09:56] <Ge0rG> Do we have Agenda items?
[15:10:21] <SamWhited> I haven't seen any new protoxeps come in
[15:10:26] <daniel> Allegedly there is stuff on the github
[15:10:35] <SamWhited> https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Needs+Council%22
[15:10:37] <daniel> But I didn't verify it
[15:11:48] <SamWhited> Yah, I have no recollection of which of these have been covered or not
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[15:12:43] <jonas’> Guus’ PR wasn’t
[15:12:47] <jonas’> it was discussed, but Guus made updates to it
[15:12:49] <jonas’> the XEP-0198 one
[15:12:54] <Ge0rG> https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/579
[15:12:56] <jonas’> (discussed and rejected back then)
[15:13:00] <jonas’> (but now changes)
[15:13:05] <jonas’> that one, exactly, thanks, Ge0rG
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[15:13:40] <guus.der.kinderen> (hargh, I got disconnected from this muc again. Please disregard my last comment, if it came through)
[15:13:52] <Ge0rG> I like the changes (I think I liked the old one as well), but it's got typos: "to" instead of "too"
[15:13:56] <SamWhited> guus.der.kinderen: I don't think it did, you're safe :)
[15:14:01] <daniel> I'm still in favor of that one. (I was the one who suggested it in the first place)
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[15:14:27] <guus.der.kinderen> Yup, Daniel made me do it.
[15:14:27] <Ge0rG> guus.der.kinderen: would you fix the "too"s?
[15:14:57] <guus.der.kinderen> Ge0rG: what's that? Spelling?
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[15:15:06] <jonas’> (yes)
[15:15:12] <Ge0rG> so we have...
#3 Items for voting: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/579 "Add handled-count-too-high specification"
[15:15:52] <Ge0rG> +1 with the typos fixed.
[15:15:52] <guus.der.kinderen> Ge0rG: will fix
[15:16:26] <daniel> Huh
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[15:16:46] <daniel> I switched to desktop and the messages I sent from there don't arrive...
[15:16:50] <daniel> Anyway
[15:16:52] <daniel> +1
[15:17:04] <SamWhited> I'm +1 as well if we're making this official; this makes good sense
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[15:17:48] <Ge0rG> Great. I suppose Kev and Dave will on-list then.
[15:18:07] <guus.der.kinderen> To/too fixed.
[15:18:37] <daniel> +1
[15:18:56] <Ge0rG> daniel: there it is
[15:19:12] <daniel> Well at least sm works
[15:19:58] <Ge0rG> https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/591 "XEP-0050 Ad-Hoc Commands: Clarify 'execute' actions equivalence" was VETOed according to the Table Of Doom, as was the competing #598. Anybody remembers what the next steps with those are?
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[15:21:42] <SamWhited> I think we just close it and if the author wants to change things and submit a new PR that's fine. Did we have feedback? I vaguely remember that having more optional stuff didn't feel good, but don't remember the specifics
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[15:28:01] <Ge0rG> In February, Kev suggested to do a rewording of the text to make the intention clear.
[15:28:29] <SamWhited> Seems like we can close it to clean up the PRs with a note about that then, I'll leave something.
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[15:30:48] <SamWhited> Oh, I was about to say "wait, there is a new protoxep, how did I miss this?" but daniel just submitted it
[15:30:55] <Ge0rG> Sorry, looks like my desktop client got DoSed by presence.
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[15:33:22] <Ge0rG> So it's over time, we don't have a clean agenda and not much of discussion either. Wrap it up and aim for +1W?
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[15:35:24] <daniel> yes
[15:36:05] <Ge0rG> Our work here is done.
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[17:45:01] <Link Mauve> guus.der.kinderen, you still have a s/to/too/ to do, here: “by sending an 'h' value that is to high”
[17:45:27] <Link Mauve> Also, is is “a undefined-condition” or “an undefined-condition”?
[17:46:32] <Link Mauve> Also s/handled-count-to-high/handled-count-too-high/
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[18:14:51] <guus.der.kinderen> Link Mauve: can you edit the pr? I'm not near my laptop for the rest of the day.
[18:17:02] <Link Mauve> Oh wow, I indeed can! :o
[18:17:05] <Link Mauve> Never saw that.
[18:17:48] <Link Mauve> Their online editor fails the search feature though. ^^'
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[18:20:55] <Link Mauve> There, done.
[18:28:33] <guus.der.kinderen> Tx
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