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XMPP Council Room | https://xmpp.org/about/xmpp-standards-foundation#council | Room logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/council/ | https://trello.com/b/ww7zWMlI/xmpp-council-agenda

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[14:48:16] <Ge0rG> Luckily now there is a XEP to fix this behavior.
[14:48:43] <Ge0rG> Do we have an agenda?
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[14:58:03] <dwd> Hiya. So, new job started this week, hence I'm woefully disorganised.
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[14:58:20] <dwd> But at least I'm here.
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[14:59:08] <Ge0rG> Even two minutes early!
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[14:59:39] <dwd> By total fluke.
[14:59:52] <Ge0rG> Looks like we survived last week's descriptor shortage and the missing Council members have rejoined.
[15:00:15] <dwd> Right, so:
[15:00:31] <dwd> 1) Is There Anybody Out There?
[15:00:55] <Ge0rG>
[15:01:04] <dwd> SamWhited / daniel ?
[15:01:05] <SamWhited> Here
[15:01:25] <dwd> Kev sent apologies last week.
[15:01:27] <Ge0rG> is Kev excused?
[15:01:29] <daniel> Hi
[15:01:39] <dwd> Well, he said he'd be unlikely to make it.
[15:01:43] <dwd> Hi daniel.
[15:02:10] <dwd> 2) Matters for voting
[15:02:57] <dwd> I don't think there's anything new.
[15:03:32] <dwd> PR 706 remains open, and there's a bunch of things that have probably timed out.
[15:03:51] <Ge0rG> I think we voted to LC XEP-0359 and XEP-0357
[15:04:20] *Ge0rG looks at jonas’, the editor.
[15:04:50] <Ge0rG> oh, both are missing votes from dwd, due today
[15:05:01] <dwd> +1 to both.
[15:05:27] <dwd> (And thanks for the nudge)
[15:05:30] <Ge0rG> I didn't see any new votes on 706
[15:05:47] <Ge0rG> oh, +1 from Sam
[15:06:05] <dwd> No, though I say Teddsterr had done a chunk of work.
[15:06:26] <Ge0rG> dwd: indeed, awesome text processing on Tedd's part.
[15:06:47] <Ge0rG> I still think we should move on with the change, and daniel is pending and Kev is on-list.
[15:07:00] <dwd> My gut feeling remains that non-normative sues will remain non-noprmative, and any lower-case normative words will remain normative (just without the specific meaning of RFC 2119).
[15:07:32] <dwd> ie - Tedd's work doesn't really change my mind, though it's great to have.
[15:07:38] <Ge0rG> dwd: if you just said that applying the PR won't change the meaning, I agree
[15:07:47] <Ge0rG> the meaning of XEPs, that is
[15:08:16] <dwd> Well, I think that people who previously considered RFC 2119 words to have that meaning irrespective of case will see a small, but insignificant change.
[15:08:52] <Ge0rG> wouldn't that be "small _and_ insignificant"?
[15:09:02] <dwd> Either works for me.
[15:09:07] <Ge0rG> Yay.
[15:09:13] <dwd> It is a small change to meaning, but an insigificant one.
[15:09:21] <Ge0rG> Move to AOB then?
[15:09:26] <dwd> Indeed.
[15:09:29] <dwd> 3) AOB
[15:09:39] <Ge0rG> I've got one. https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Board_and_Council_Elections_2018
[15:09:46] <dwd> Oh, indeed.
[15:09:59] <Ge0rG> November 4th, 2018 is the deadline to reapply.
[15:10:22] <Ge0rG> We don't have any Council applicants yet.
[15:10:30] <dwd> It'd be great to see a contested election.
[15:11:02] <Ge0rG> I'll try to prepare banner ads and giveaways.
[15:11:30] <SamWhited> "You're the 1 millionth visitor to apply for council!"
[15:11:38] <SamWhited> </blink>
[15:12:07] <dwd> Yeah - but I think it's worth nudging people we think would be good, whether or not we might be standing again.
[15:12:23] <dwd> Any Other Any Other Business>
[15:12:35] <dwd> Any Other Any Other Business?
[15:12:48] <dwd> If not:
[15:12:54] <dwd> 4) Next Meeting
[15:13:02] <dwd> SBTSBC?
[15:13:09] <Ge0rG> +1W WFM
[15:13:09] <SamWhited> WFM
[15:13:16] <daniel> 👍
[15:13:28] <dwd> Great. Thanks all.
[15:13:34] <dwd> 5) Ite, Meeting Est.
[15:13:59] <Ge0rG> Thanks Dave
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