Wednesday, October 24, 2018
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XMPP Council Room | https://xmpp.org/about/xmpp-standards-foundation#council | Room logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/council/ | https://trello.com/b/ww7zWMlI/xmpp-council-agenda

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[14:45:21] <Ge0rG> My calendar reminds me.
[14:45:40] <Ge0rG> dwd: how's the SoD doing?
[14:46:54] <dwd> Good nudge.
[14:47:33] <Kev> Oh yes, I have an outstanding vote on the PR to change normative language. I'm -0 on it for expediency.
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[14:57:48] <dwd> SoD updated.
[14:58:27] <Ge0rG> what happens to all the EXPIRED ones? Do we re-vote?
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[15:00:28] <dwd> EVeryone who didn't vote (sadly, normally me this time around) is assumed to have abstained.
[15:00:46] <Kev> I'm here.
[15:01:13] <dwd> 1) Who else is here apart from Kev?
[15:01:34] <dwd> And me. I'm definitely here.,
[15:02:16] <dwd> Ge0rG, daniel, SamWhited?
[15:03:05] *Ge0rG .o/
[15:03:11] <SamWhited> oops, here
[15:03:16] <SamWhited> getting to a computer
[15:03:22] <daniel> Here
[15:03:28] <dwd> OK, full house.
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[15:03:35] <dwd> 2) Matters for a vote
[15:03:57] <dwd> I didn't find anything new to vote on this week. Have I missed anything?
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[15:05:28] <Ge0rG> I'm not aware of any, but this is not a reliable sign
[15:05:45] <dwd> Indeed.
[15:05:50] <dwd> So:
[15:06:00] <dwd> 3) Outstanding Votes
[15:06:30] <dwd> I think the only unexpired vote is now the RFC 2119 / 8174 change, from Daniel - unless I missed a vote previously?
[15:06:55] <dwd> (I have to admit I thought Daniel had voted for that, but I can't find it...)
[15:07:20] <daniel> I don't think I have
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[15:07:30] <Ge0rG> and the github link is broken for that PR
[15:07:55] <dwd> Oh, so it is. How rubbish.
[15:08:00] <Ge0rG> what's the process to clean up the orange mess?
[15:08:24] <Ge0rG> (not speaking of POTUS, that is beyond our capabilities)
[15:08:46] <dwd> Well, #706 vote will expire at the end of today, anyway, so yeah, let's raise this in AOB:
[15:08:50] <dwd> 4) AOB
[15:09:01] <daniel> Oh that was the meeting I missed
[15:09:08] <Kev> Is Dave enjoying his new career as a high-fashion trendsetter?
[15:09:15] <daniel> Going to read up on the minutes asap
[15:09:53] <dwd> Expired votes - the thing that expires is people's right to vote, so it operates on the basis that if you don't vote within the ttwo weeks, then you're assumed to have astained and the remaining votes will decide it.
[15:10:23] <dwd> Kev, I'm feeling underdressed.
[15:10:54] <Ge0rG> dwd: so far so good. What happens to the items that don't get a majority nor a veto?
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[15:11:03] <Kev> They don't pass.
[15:11:10] <Kev> Assuming they're things that need a majority.
[15:11:21] <dwd> Ge0rG, Just assume everyone with a blank space voted 0.
[15:11:59] <dwd> Hmmm. No votes at all recorded for some things - I'll check tedd's email again, because I think that's wrong.
[15:12:08] <Ge0rG> Can we have a pragmatic go at them and bring them up for a new vote?
[15:12:32] <dwd> In principle we can.
[15:13:16] <dwd> How about I go thorugh everything that failed to pass due to an expired vote, and place =it on the agenda for next week?
[15:13:26] <Kev> Sure.
[15:13:34] <dwd> OK.
[15:13:41] <dwd> Any Other Any Other Business?
[15:13:43] <Ge0rG> That would be great!
[15:14:07] <Ge0rG> Winter is coming.
[15:14:20] <Kev> I've already had my first winter cold.
[15:14:43] <dwd> So...
[15:14:47] <Ge0rG> I just wanted to remind everybody that DST is happening between this and the next Council Meeting.
[15:14:57] <dwd> 5) Next Meeting
[15:15:01] <Ge0rG> I think Sam is the only one negatively affected.
[15:15:18] <Kev> So usual process, modify the Council meeting time by European DST?
[15:15:23] <SamWhited> *nods* glad you said that
[15:15:30] <dwd> SamWhited, So would the DST shift in EU cause problems for you?
[15:15:44] <SamWhited> No, I'm fine with this time; just yell and hollar when I inevitably forget.
[15:15:52] <dwd> Lovely.
[15:16:54] <dwd> So I propose 1600UTC next Wednesday, 31st October.
[15:17:20] <dwd> (Noting the change in UTC time for the meeting to accomodate the EU DST shift)
[15:17:43] <Ge0rG> WFM
[15:18:05] <Kev> +1
[15:18:12] <dwd> 6) Ite, Meeting Est
[15:18:16] <dwd> Thanks all!
[15:18:21] <Kev> Thanks.
[15:19:38] <Ge0rG> Also the out-of-meeting reminder to prepare your election rally
[15:19:46] <Ge0rG> Also the out-of-meeting reminder to prepare your re-election rally
[15:20:15] <dwd> Yes, and also seek others who'd be good.
[15:21:59] <Ge0rG> zinid for Council?
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