XMPP Council - 2019-07-03

I don't know yet whether I will be able to make today's meeting.

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jonas’, I'm wondering if it'll just be the two of us for Council.

Link Mauve, You about?

that’s certainly a possibility

I might have AOB, which we could still discuss even without quorum?

may be useful to have a voice from you and/or any present floor

but I can also raise this in xsf@

1) Roll Call

jonas’, Link Mauve, Ge0rG ?

*crickets*

I’m here.

So, we have quorum.

HEALTH_WARN: 1 slow request(s) > 300s

dwd, ?

Oh, sorry, I'd got distracted.

Well, scratch today anyway, but if jonas’ wanted some thoughts I can give some.

I was wondering whether we should try to recruit some folks to whom we delegate power or who will give us advice on Jingle.

I personally do not feel very comfortable with voting on Jingle stuff, because it is a huge complex thing which I haven’t touched, at all, yet.

We could create a Jingle SIG (cf https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0002.html) ;-)

I agree. I have the same feeling of looming incompetence

Jingle is semi-clean compared to SIP, but WebRTC is indeed a complex technology.

Jingle is still a lot of stuff I don’t have an overview over

and even reading the XEPs wouldn’t help to really grasp the implementation implications I’m afraid

it’s a little different with MIX where I have sunken quite a few hours and which I considered while designing the MUC part of aioxmpp, but still

nod

jonas’, I have worked on multiple Jingle implementations, and I feel I could be useful to this SIG.

I was half-joking about the SIG. But having an informal review team might be sensible.

jonas’ [17:40]: > it’s a little different with MIX where I have sunken quite a few hours and which I considered while designing the MUC part of aioxmpp, but still That feeling of sunk cost, I have it too now after the massive MUC changes

nothing to do with sunk cost I think?

it’s about difference in understanding of the different systems