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Ge0rG
I don't know yet whether I will be able to make today's meeting.
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jonas’
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dwd
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dwd
jonas’, I'm wondering if it'll just be the two of us for Council.
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dwd
Link Mauve, You about?
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jonas’
that’s certainly a possibility
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jonas’
I might have AOB, which we could still discuss even without quorum?
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jonas’
may be useful to have a voice from you and/or any present floor
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jonas’
but I can also raise this in xsf@
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dwd
1) Roll Call
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dwd
jonas’, Link Mauve, Ge0rG ?
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jonas’
*crickets*
- Ge0rG is more gone than there
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Link Mauve
I’m here.
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Link Mauve
So, we have quorum.
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jonas’
HEALTH_WARN: 1 slow request(s) > 300s
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jonas’
dwd, ?
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dwd
Oh, sorry, I'd got distracted.
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dwd
Well, scratch today anyway, but if jonas’ wanted some thoughts I can give some.
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jonas’
I was wondering whether we should try to recruit some folks to whom we delegate power or who will give us advice on Jingle.
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jonas’
I personally do not feel very comfortable with voting on Jingle stuff, because it is a huge complex thing which I haven’t touched, at all, yet.
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peter
We could create a Jingle SIG (cf https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0002.html) ;-)
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Ge0rG
I agree. I have the same feeling of looming incompetence
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peter
Jingle is semi-clean compared to SIP, but WebRTC is indeed a complex technology.
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jonas’
Jingle is still a lot of stuff I don’t have an overview over
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jonas’
and even reading the XEPs wouldn’t help to really grasp the implementation implications I’m afraid
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jonas’
it’s a little different with MIX where I have sunken quite a few hours and which I considered while designing the MUC part of aioxmpp, but still
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peter
nod
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Link Mauve
jonas’, I have worked on multiple Jingle implementations, and I feel I could be useful to this SIG.
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peter
I was half-joking about the SIG. But having an informal review team might be sensible.
- peter is not a fan of formalism
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Zash
jonas’ [17:40]: > it’s a little different with MIX where I have sunken quite a few hours and which I considered while designing the MUC part of aioxmpp, but still That feeling of sunk cost, I have it too now after the massive MUC changes
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jonas’
nothing to do with sunk cost I think?
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jonas’
it’s about difference in understanding of the different systems