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dwd
Reminder that I'm on holiday, so won't be about for the meeting.
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Link Mauve
Hi everyone.
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Link Mauve
It’s about time.
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Link Mauve
Ge0rG, Kev, jonas’, ping.
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Ge0rG
Sorry, I've been on the Autobahn.
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Link Mauve
Ok.
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jonas’
I’m here
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Ge0rG
As I'm participating in a real-life meeting at the same time, I'd suggest somebody else chairs
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Link Mauve
Kev said “I am also not here next week. Probably.”, so we can assume no quorum.
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Link Mauve
Oh, so you’re still here?
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Ge0rG
Semi-here.
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jonas’
Link Mauve, can you chair?
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Link Mauve
I was looking for things to put on an agenda, but sure.
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Link Mauve
So, 1) roll call!
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jonas’
I’m here
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Link Mauve
I count three people, we have quorum.
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Link Mauve
2) Agenda bashing
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Link Mauve
Do we have an agenda?
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jonas’
we have three PRs
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Link Mauve
I counted three PRs.
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Link Mauve
Anything else?
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jonas’
not that I knew
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Link Mauve
pep., did you do what you wanted to do, or do you want us to skip one of your PRs?✎ -
Link Mauve
pep., did you do what you wanted to do, or do you want us to skip your PR? ✏
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pep.
skip, I haven't submitted anything
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Link Mauve
I suggest we skip the activity summary this week, as I don’t have it.
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Link Mauve
Thanks pep.
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Link Mauve
3) Add pubsub#public in Publish-Subscribe features (PR #806)
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Link Mauve
Shall we vote?
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jonas’
we can
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jonas’
soo… I’m not sure on this one.
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jonas’
doesn’t this require a feature on the pubsub service, too?
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Link Mauve
I think so too.
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pep.
Why?
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pep.
Say in the PR "if it's not present consider it $boolean"?
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jonas’
pep., on the service, not on the node
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pep.
I'm not sure why though
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pep.
still
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jonas’
I’d want to know, with muclumbus for example, whether I’ll get non-public nodes in the search
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Link Mauve
pep., so that users know that the service supports this new feature, and can avoid publishing something which can’t be made non-public.
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jonas’
in that case I wouldn’t bother to index
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pep.
jonas’, you wouldn't get them, the server would hide them
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jonas’
false, if the server doesn’t support it
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pep.
Then it's public
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jonas’
hm.
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pep.
Just like now
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Link Mauve
pep., but as an entity discovering it, you would need a feature to know whether “it’s public just like now”, or not.
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pep.
I don't understand why you want that. A flag to False means it's hidden, a flag to True or no flag means public. As a publishing entity though you might want to know indeed
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pep.
(?)
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Link Mauve
I’m on list, I’ll send that feedback to edhelas after this meeting.
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Link Mauve
Ge0rG, jonas’?
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jonas’
on-list
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pep.
fwiw, a feature might not hurt for discovering entities, just that I don't think it's really useful
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Link Mauve
4) XEP-0045: Add Tags configuration and metadata (PR #808)
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Link Mauve
This one I haven’t reviewed at all, so I’m on list.
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jonas’
+1 on that one
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Link Mauve
5) Outstanding Votes
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Link Mauve
I haven’t followed at all, do we have anything?
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pep.
What about pubsub#rsm? When I said skip I was talking about all the rest(?)
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Link Mauve
Oh, I didn’t understand that; 5) XEP-0060: Add a pubsub#rsm disco#info feature to clear confusion
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jonas’
+1
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Link Mauve
I’m +1 on this one, but you should register it with the registrar, in section 16.3, and maybe too section 10 too.
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pep.
In coming changes I'm planning to rewrite rsm and order-by's "Dicovering support" sections, because these XEPs are not useful as is and it doesn't really make sense atm. pubsub#rsm is useful standalone though
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Link Mauve
Indeed.
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Link Mauve
I’m fine with this change in 0060 standalone.
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Link Mauve
Alright, let’s continue.
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Link Mauve
6) Outstandinv Votes✎ -
Link Mauve
6) Outstanding Votes ✏
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Link Mauve
I can’t find anything, I’d like to remind Editor that some PRs have been voted on and should be merged or closed.
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Link Mauve
7) Next Meeting
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Link Mauve
Is +1W fine with the presents?
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Link Mauve
I won’t be here in two weeks, fyi.
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Link Mauve
8) AOB?
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Ge0rG
sorry, I had a network outage. on-list everything.
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Link Mauve
Ack.
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Ge0rG
I've sent something to standards@ regarding Message Errors, and I'd appreciate Council feedback. But that can go on list as well
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jonas’
none from me
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jonas’
+1w wfm
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Ge0rG
Also no video conference on Compliance Suite 2020 with Kev so far.
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Ge0rG
+1W should work.
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Link Mauve
Ge0rG, alright, we can do that.
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Link Mauve
9) End of Meeting
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Link Mauve
Thanks all!
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jonas’
thanks Link Mauve
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dwd
If Georg wasn't there, was that meeting technically quorate? Oh well. 😁
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dwd
Thanks for stepping in, Link Mauve.
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Link Mauve
dwd, he was there at times though. ^^
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jonas’
if only we had a protocol to indicate presence
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dwd
At the beginning, which is probably all that counts.
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Ge0rG
I'm very much sorry.
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jonas’
in those IRL committees I was part of, we’d keep track of presence and stop the meeting (except AOB) when we lost quorum because people had to leave
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Link Mauve
If only we had a way to track presences of participants in a MUC.✎ -
Link Mauve
If only we had a way to track the presence of participants in a MUC. ✏
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pep.
If only
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Ge0rG
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0224.html