KevJust reviewed https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0423.html . Just in case I don't make today's meeting, I'm premptively +1 on moving 0.3 to Draft.
Ge0rGPhew.
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Dave Cridland1) Roll Call
Kev2, bacon.
Dave CridlandHad 2 bacon ones for lunch today, with extra thick bacon. Yummy.
Dave CridlandGe0rG, Link Mauve, jonas’ ?
Ge0rGKevin Bacon?
Ge0rG,o/
Link MauveYes, I’m here.
jonas’.
jonas’am here
Dave CridlandWell, that's a full house.
jonas’Bacon Buger!
Dave Cridland2) Agenda Bashing
jonas’Bacon Burger!
Link MauveI’m hungry now.
Link MauveAfter failing at making mochi. :(
Dave CridlandI'm assuming we just have XEP-0423 to Draft.
Ge0rGLet's add something to the agenda just for the sake of it
Dave CridlandLet's not.
Dave Cridland3) Item for a vote:
jonas’I’m +1 on XEP-0423 to Draft
Dave Cridlanda) Advance XEP-0423 to Draft.
Ge0rG+1 on XEP-0423 to Draft
Dave Cridlandjonas’, Patience.
Link MauveI’m +1 on XEP-0423 to Draft.
Link MauveI’m +1 on advancing XEP-0423 to Draft.
Kev+1. And a big thank you to Ge0rG for sticking with this. This is, I think, the most useful CS we've had in as long as I can remember - I think having some sort of nuance really helps.
Link MauveIndeed!
Dave CridlandTempting to veto for dramatic purposes, now.
Dave CridlandBut no, best not.
Ge0rGDave Cridland: you could on-list instead and wait until the 20th.
Dave Cridland+1 to advance to Draft. And I agree with Kev, this has been a lot of effort for Ge0rG, but it's resulted in a much better document than we've had for a long time.
Ge0rGEven the 21st.
Ge0rGAnd announce your vote right before Alex closes the polls.
Ge0rGAnd then it will get delayed by the MTA and...
Dave CridlandThanks also to the rest of Council for the extra meeting and being prepared for it.
jonas’I, too, am happy with the result, but I’m not with (nearly) burning out all CS editors
jonas’I, too, am happy with the result, but I’m not with (nearly) burning out all CS editors/authors
Dave CridlandSo, for the record, a unanimous decision to move CS-2020 to Draft.
Link Mauve\o/
Ge0rGI must admit, there was a period of some days after I started work on 423, where I felt burned out as well.
Dave Cridland4) Next Meeting
Link MauveNext week Wednesday as usual?
Link Mauve16:00Z
Ge0rG+1 for next Wednesday
jonas’wfm
Dave CridlandYes, I think so. I'd note that if there is anything to vote now, we'll have to either be able to vote immediately or it'll have to be re-raised by the next Council.
Dave Cridland5) AOB
jonas’none from me
Link MauveNone from me either.
Dave CridlandOther than saying how pleased I am to see lots of candidates for Board and Council, nothing from me.
Dave CridlandOK.
Dave Cridland6) Ite, Meeting Est
Dave CridlandThanks all.
Link MauveThanks all for this exceptional meeting!
jonas’thanks Dave et al.
jonas’this was a good move indeed
jonas’pep., do you want to do the honours?
pep.sure
jonas’:)
pep.Dave Cridland, what was wrong from not having this meeting and putting it on list? Council members "just" needed to react quickly and not two weeks after :)
KevMeetings focus the mind, sometimes. We could have onlisted, but this way worked, so ... :)
jonas’pep., yesterday there was no version to vote on yet
Ge0rGpep.: the Last Call technically only ended last night, and there was the pending PR
jonas’so there had to be a meeting which started the vote
pep.Ge0rG, ok
jonas’it was a lucky accident that everyone voted in the meeting and not on-list
KevWe could have started the vote yesterday, on 'whatever version is published tomorrow morning', and all on-listed, but ... this way was better, I think.
KevEven if I'm not a fan of extra meetings I have to attend :)
Dave CridlandMe neither, but I'm not a fan of starting a vote on a version that's unpublished just for the purpose of ensuring a timetable.
Kevjonas’: I think 'lucky accident' is understating the effort people put in (mostly Ge0rG) to make sure it could happen.
Ge0rGKev: it was a kind of lucky accident nevertheless, because my calculation of the moment when to submit the XEP was off by two weeks.
jonas’Kev, sorry, yes
jonas’I didn’t mean to diminish that
jonas’I was looking at it from a concurrency architectural perspective, where a certain sequence of events is almost always an accident
jonas’I’m too deep in concurrent code at the moment
pep.hmm, I have no minutes to link to yet.
pep.I guess I'll just state that
jonas’pep., you can link to the logs of this room
KevLinking to minutes is a very recent thing and is just a nicety, I think. There's nothing requiring it.
pep.Kev, sure
Kev(Assuming you mean referencing when it was approved by Council)
pep.yes
KevI mean, I think it's a /good/ nicety, but if it's proving an issue here...
pep.Just makes it easier to check back what happened when/why