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dwd
T-5?
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jonas’
yupp
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jonas’
just arrived at home
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Zash
Just started some coffee
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pep.
ugh already wednesday
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jonas’
'tis time
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jonas’
1) Roll Cal✎ -
jonas’
1) Roll Call ✏
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daniel
I’m here
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Zash
Here
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jonas’
me too \o/
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jonas’
I suspect dwd might also be here, and IIRC Ge0rG sent apologies.
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jonas’
2) Agenda Bashing
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jonas’
anything to add to the agenda?
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Zash
Don't think so
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jonas’
3) Items for a Vote
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jonas’
3a) Start Last Call on XEP-0429 Title: Special Interests Group End to End Encryption URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0429.html Abstract: This document proposes the formation of a Special Interest Group (SIG) within the XSF devoted to the development of end-to-end encryption within the context of XMPP.
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jonas’
+1 for LC
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Zash
+1
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Zash
(why do these even go through LC?)
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jonas’
so that the details can be figured out in versioning under XSF IPR instead of in weird protoxep state
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daniel
i don’t understand why the formation of sigs goes through the xep process
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daniel
or more specifically why it goes through council
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jonas’
council is specifically responsible for SIGs
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daniel
but yeah if we are responsible for that I’m +1
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jonas’
by definition
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jonas’
> A Special Interest Group (SIG) is a working group approved by the XMPP Council
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jonas’
(XEP-0002)
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pep.
Yeah I also don't really understand. Hysterical raisins
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jonas’
they work on technical things
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Zash
So it's like we delegate some work to that group
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daniel
still the multistep process doesn’t make sense
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daniel
do we now have to wait 6 month and for 2 implementations?
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jonas’
daniel, it kind of does. there was a bit discussion about the formalities of the SIG formation, and I think it makes a lot of sense to iron those out in Experimental
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jonas’
(or LC)
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jonas’
daniel, you confuse Active with Draft✎ -
Zash
It's not a Standards Track tho
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jonas’
daniel, you confuse Active with Final ✏
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daniel
ah; mhhh never mind then
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daniel
+1 on the LC
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jonas’
alright
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jonas’
moving on
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jonas’
3b) Proposed XMPP Extension: Simple JSON Messaging URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/udt.html Abstract: This specification proposes a simple mechanism by which applications can transfer data safely, without needing additional protocol design work. It is intended to provide a protocol that is trivial to implement and can be driven with a simple API.
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jonas’
again, +1
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Zash
+1
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daniel
+0
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jonas’
(pinging dwd )
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jonas’
no dwd apparently
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jonas’
moving on
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jonas’
3c) Proposed XMPP Extension: Trust Messages URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/trust-messages.html Abstract: This document specifies a way to communicate the trust in public long-term keys used by end-to-end encryption protocols from one endpoint to another.
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jonas’
I’m on-list on that one, haven’t had a chance to read it yet
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dwd
Sorry, distracted at the wrong moment.
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Zash
On-list
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daniel
+1
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dwd
I'm +1 on (3a), +1 on (3b), and +0 on (3c).
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jonas’
alright
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jonas’
4) Outstanding Votes
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jonas’
none from previous meetings, you’re all awesome!
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jonas’
5) Date of Next
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jonas’
+1w wfm
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jonas’
(though I’ll have to leave on time for burgers)
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dwd
+1 to +1w.
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Zash
+1+1w
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daniel
i’ll be on a train with probably very spotty internet connection; but i'll try to make it
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jonas’
noted, thanks
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jonas’
6) AOB
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jonas’
I don’t have any, does anyone else?
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dwd
We need to figure out and restart that process discussion, I think. But not here.
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jonas’
right
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Zash
That.
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jonas’
by process discussion you mean the ProtoXEP/Experimental mess?
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dwd
Yup.
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jonas’
I meant to work through the thread and form an opinion
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jonas’
I should probably do that some time soon
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jonas’
AO-AOB?
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Zash
ENOENT
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dwd
NOAOB.
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jonas’
7) Ite Meeting Est
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jonas’
thanks all
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jonas’
thanks Tedd :)
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Zash
Thanks jonas’