XMPP Council - 2020-03-11


  1. Ge0rG looks at the clock

  2. jonas’

    I do, too

  3. Zash

    Soon

  4. jonas’

    now

  5. jonas’

    1) Roll Call

  6. Zash

    Here!

  7. jonas’

    is that all?

  8. jonas’

    Ge0rG!

  9. Zash

    forever alone

  10. Ge0rG ,o/

  11. jonas’

    that’s a quorum

  12. jonas’

    2) Agenda Bashing

  13. jonas’

    anything to add to the posted agenda?

  14. daniel

    Here

  15. jonas’ adds daniel to the Agenda

  16. daniel

    I have nothing to add

  17. jonas’

    alright, assuming no addition to the agenda

  18. jonas’

    3) Editor’s Update - ProtoXEP: Reminders - Expired calls: CFE on XEP-0066 - Calls in progress: - CFE: XEP-0184 (Message Delivery Receipts), ends: 2020-03-17

  19. jonas’

    4) Items for voting

  20. jonas’

    4a) Decide on advancement of XEP-0066 Title: Out of Band Data URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0066.html Abstract: This specification defines two XMPP protocol extensions for communicating URIs, one for use in XMPP message stanzas and the other for use in a structured request-response interaction via XMPP IQ stanzas. Among other things, this enables one entity to inform another entity about a file that is available at an HTTP URL.

  21. jonas’

    4a) Decide on advancement of XEP-0066 Title: Out of Band Data URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0066.html Abstract: This specification defines two XMPP protocol extensions for communicating URIs, one for use in XMPP message stanzas and the other for use in a structured request-response interaction via XMPP IQ stanzas. Among other things, this enables one entity to inform another entity about a file that is available at an HTTP URL.

  22. daniel

    Very little feedback. I'd say -1

  23. jonas’

    (one day I’ll remember to strip the line breaks first)

  24. jonas’

    -1, there are a few sensible points brought up on-list

  25. jonas’

    those should be addressed first

  26. Ge0rG

    -1, I totally missed the CFE, but I'm pretty sure it's not There Yet

  27. Zash

    Eh, -1 then.

  28. daniel

    It seems to get hard to get feedback

  29. daniel

    I wonder why that is

  30. jonas’

    to get feedback on '66 or in general?

  31. daniel

    Does the community not know that this is important?

  32. daniel

    In general

  33. jonas’

    we can discuss this as AOB

  34. jonas’

    5) Outstanding Votes I’m updating the spreadsheet of doom, one second

  35. jonas’

    we have a few outstanding votes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ANu9KGmNf2r-qpLYqF7NdJTtqA1GIu55rf2deKbM0GA/edit?ts=5de7debe#gid=0

  36. jonas’

    the only thing which is about to expire is VETOED either way, so no hurry

  37. jonas’

    6) Date of Next

  38. jonas’

    +1w wfm

  39. daniel

    For me too

  40. Zash

    wfm

  41. jonas’

    7) AOB

  42. daniel

    I have a minor one

  43. jonas’

    daniel, so, re feedback: I was under the impression that we got above-average feedback in this LC/CFE spree

  44. jonas’

    maybe that was just my perception though

  45. daniel

    Dunno. I was particularly missing this for 66 and Avatar conversion

  46. jonas’

    I’m not sure how we’d be able to find out the cause of lack of feedback

  47. jonas’

    ah yeah, those in particular were pretty low.

  48. daniel

    Delivery receipts was bike shredded a bit

  49. jonas’

    (haha shredded)

  50. jonas’

    in case of '66, I was meaning to give feedback, but I didn’t make it to the deadline and others already stated things which need to be fixed either way

  51. daniel

    But yeah what ever. We probably won't find an answer to that anyway

  52. jonas’

    in case of avatar conversion I personally simply lack experience

  53. jonas’

    probably

  54. jonas’

    daniel, what’s your AOB?

  55. Zash

    jonas’: didn't we have a thread on avatar conversion?

  56. daniel

    Since council was involved in that a couple of weeks ago I would just like to inform council that the omemo situation should be resolved now

  57. jonas’

    ah yes, I noted the update

  58. jonas’

    it was quite extensive

  59. jonas’

    I’m pleased to see that it now uses SCE

  60. daniel

    We have more authors who are willing to incorporate feedback

  61. daniel

    And we resolved the GPL situation

  62. daniel

    That's it. Just wanted to have that on the record

  63. pep.

    note that it doesn't mean all libraries won't be GPL.. just that the spec is not bound to GPL anymore. Up to people to implement it :p

  64. daniel

    As it had been council business before

  65. jonas’

    alright

  66. jonas’

    anything else?

  67. daniel

    No

  68. jonas’

    alright

  69. jonas’

    8) Ite Meeting Est

  70. jonas’

    Thanks all, thanks Tedd in particular

  71. Zash

    Thanks all

  72. Ge0rG

    So I've read the Reminders XEP and the respective thread, and I have very mixed feelings about it all.

  73. flow

    Ge0rG, which you probably want to share in xsf@?

  74. Ge0rG

    flow: no, I'm currently wondering which Council decisioun would be the right one.

  75. pep.

    what kind of mixed feelings Ge0rG

  76. Ge0rG

    I'll write to standards@

  77. pep.

    k