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XEP Editor Team — logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/editor/

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[16:03:24] <SamWhited> We already have a Trello for boards, FYI, please do not use GitHub boards. I don't really care between the two, but let's not duplicate info and everyone was already using Trello.
[16:03:56] <SamWhited> I have closed the GitHub boards.
[16:05:20] <SamWhited> Feel free to rearrange or rename columns in the trello board if you need to. If you can't, let me know and I'll fix permissions (but I think everyone can)
[16:05:38] <jonasw> I don’t like trello.
[16:05:52] <SamWhited> Me neither.
[16:06:02] <jonasw> any good reason not to move to github "projects"?
[16:06:07] <jonasw> they’re nicely integrated.
[16:06:08] <SamWhited> Everyone was already using Trello
[16:06:26] <jonasw> there’s no tight coupling between the boards, is there?
[16:06:33] <SamWhited> If the council has a thing on Trello, they can move it directly to the editor board. Let's not try to change our entire process just because I don't love something.
[16:06:46] <SamWhited> It works and is "good enough".
[16:06:56] <jonasw> right, maybe I don’t know trello well enough
[16:07:07] <SamWhited> s/I/we/
[16:07:11] <jonasw> what I liked about the github things is that you can see right on the PR what the status in council etc. is
[16:07:51] <Guus> (github has a Trello-like feature?)
[16:07:59] <jonasw> Guus, yeah, they added that a few months ago I think
[16:08:03] <SamWhited> Guus: I think they call it "Projects", it's fairly recent.
[16:08:06] <jonasw> I used it to track PRs through council
[16:08:36] <SamWhited> I assume Trello has a GitHub integration we could enable, but I haven't tried it; it was never really a problem.
[16:08:55] <SamWhited> I just don't want info ending up in two places with council looking at our Trello and half the stuff being on GitHub.
[16:09:11] <jonasw> I put the stuff on council trello whenever needed.
[16:11:37] <jonasw> SamWhited, what do you suggest as a means of communication so that work I do on the xeps repo (e.g. with respect to tooling) is seen by all active editors?
[16:11:49] <jonasw> I tried PRs on the xeps repository which apparently didn’t really help.
[16:12:02] <jonasw> I can ping the editors list, do you think that’d be more useful?
[16:13:52] <jonasw> also it’d have been nice to get some notice before you simply close the boards -- they are referenced in the current readme
[16:13:57] <jonasw> and I currently don’t have the time to re-work the readme
[16:15:21] <jonasw> also it is a bit demotivating to get my work (thought put into a process I can work efficiently with, given that there was only sparse documentation, the timezone issue noone of us can do something about and the huge backlog) reverted without a word of discussion.
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[16:19:12] <SamWhited> jonasw: the email list would be good for communication
[16:19:33] <jonasw> right, let’s try that
[16:19:33] <SamWhited> Sorry if it's demotivating, but please don't just duplicate work that's already been done.
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[16:19:59] <jonasw> SamWhited, I understand.
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[16:24:31] <SamWhited> Reworked the readme: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/519
[16:24:47] <SamWhited> If we want to change in the future that's fine, but for now let's not make the editor process require any more steps than it already does.
[16:24:54] <SamWhited> And let's discuss before changing the process.
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[16:25:47] <jonasw> SamWhited, okay, fair
[16:26:42] <jonasw> I’m composing an email with an overview of what I did in the last month besides working on XEP updates.
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[16:30:34] <jonasw> thanks for the fix to the readme
[16:30:47] <SamWhited> Sure thing; thanks for all the work you've been doing?
[16:30:50] <SamWhited> !, even.
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[16:39:39] <jonasw> email sent, have fun reading it :)
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