jdev - 2019-12-06

for the Tigase client for ios is it possible to know if a connection is disconnected ?

is there a way to know MessageSendingClient client is disconnected ?

@nykb in the settings account has a dot indicating whether it's connected or not (or connecting);

okay i found out the XMPPClient has a variable called state "SocketConnector.State"

with this im able to know the state of the client

Wojtek, why do you use @ btw? Is that a bug in your client?

i was looking for this because , sometimes i try to send messages , but it does not send , i suspected the client was disconnected

is it possible to keep the client connected as long at the application is active ?

i mean the XMPPClient for swift iOS

is it possible to keep it connected ?

pep. I guess "force of habit" of mentioning someone from "other places"

ok

nykb - it should stay connected as long as it is active (in the foreground, limitation of the iOS). once you push it to the background the os will kill the connection after a short delay

pep. also - BeagleIM gives you a dropdown with nicknames after typing "@" so it's easier to mention someone

Why do you need to send @ on the wire?

Converse.js does this too but doesn't include the @ in the actual message

(minus bugs: https://github.com/conversejs/converse.js/issues/1198)

pep. does it actually matter if it's there or not?

It does. You're putting arbitrary semantics into body

Of course it's not the same nick anymore :)

Wojtek, most importantly, some clients will not match for a highlight in that case ✏

And it's kinda annoying

You'd expect other clients to recognize that arbitrary character and continue operating as if it wasn't there

-> arbitrary semantics

Zash - why it's annoying?

Why is "not being highlighted" annoying? (when it's actually aimed at you)

Is that a question

I'd argue that "@" shouldn't be treated as part of word (in the same sense that it's not part of localpart, domain or resource name)

I thought that "including 'a" per se was annoying, not the consequences

my bad

Wojtek, but I can have an `@` in my nickname

Wojtek, the rules for highlight matching are very ad-hoc, no two clients will do the same.

what if I’m called @pep.?

\b or \< in a regex might match the beginning of @pep.’s nick, or not, I’m not sure.

If I wrote about “somethingpep.” you may or may not highlight pep. for instance.

Highlighting is still very much not a solved problem.

Link Mauve - I know, Beagle for example highlights "sequences of characters" which is convenient in a way (if someone tries to add some sort of flexion to the nickname for example)

What if the attention element had a target nickname for muc

References do fix that on the sending end, so that for instance when you press Tab to complete “p” into “pep.” it adds said metadata for pep.’s client to understand that this specific chunk of codepoints is a hl to him.

Converse.js does use it the way you’re used to, you type @p, enter, and it puts “@pep.” in the input field but on the wire sends “pep.” with a reference attached.

Wojtek, right, some languages do declinate names (including nicknames) and using \bnick\b would be very bad in that case.

jonas’ that's quite tricky

but as stated - this is very much not solved problem

\bnick\b also breaks with my current nickname

Right.

and mine

https://lab.louiz.org/poezio/poezio/commit/6deffb430ef044938f1ed20fa2fdd47022d44970

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