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[07:34:42] <0xAFFE> hi folks, I'm admin of boese-ban.de fyi
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[16:05:05] <bear> hello
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[18:29:37] <stpeter> howdy
[18:29:54] <stpeter> ben, check your email for various account passwords
[18:30:03] <stpeter> I really appreciate your help!
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[18:40:46] <stpeter> hi Swen
[18:40:50] <Swen> Hi there
[18:41:09] <stpeter> I think the next task is for me to provide a list of the requests I half-processed last year :)
[18:41:45] <stpeter> we could do that on a wiki page
[18:41:45] <Swen> yes, that would be great, we will check those again and implement them into the list
[18:41:48] <stpeter> rght
[18:42:13] <stpeter> we could use http://tracker.xmpp.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa but that's a bit heavy, perhaps
[18:43:59] <Swen> nice project tracker!
[18:44:05] <stpeter> http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Public_Services created
[18:44:11] <stpeter> I'll make some updates to that right now
[18:44:52] <Swen> ok great, i will delete the offline servers later
[18:47:44] <stpeter> well I am being pulled off to a lunch meeting, so I won't edit the page now
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[18:48:46] <stpeter> bbiab
[18:52:03] <ben> account passwords arrived, thanks stpeter
[18:58:46] <Swen> all right, i guess i have no permission to hide or delete a row in this table..... can you try it ben?
[18:59:14] <ben> can you give an example row?
[19:00:01] *** Swen shows as "online"
[19:01:03] <ben> seems to work for me, swen
[19:01:21] <Swen> row 10 is outdates, default.rs is not longer active
[19:01:28] <Swen> outdated
[19:02:15] <ben> yep, i can hide rows
[19:04:03] <Swen> ok great
[19:04:32] <Swen> i will have a look which numbers are the offline ones
[19:04:40] <ben> that would be cool :)
[19:05:47] <Swen> row 5 and 6 cassilis.net and chatmask.com - both offline
[19:06:52] <Swen> row 37 and 38 jabber.hispano.org and jabberbr.com both offline
[19:07:47] <Swen> row 41 and 49 jabberim.de and lethyro.net both offline
[19:11:06] <ben> i'll just hide them for now, the great cleanup can be done when we add the new applications
[19:11:16] <Swen> after that, we could add your and my services to the list, and peters as well (when we receive it)
[19:11:30] <Swen> yes of course, i wouldn't delete them either
[19:12:20] <Swen> by peters i meant the one's which weren't added in the last year ;)
[19:12:39] <ben> lets wait for peter to add his "half-processed list" to the wiki
[19:13:04] <ben> how did you check the servers?
[19:13:21] <Swen> yes, better plan, all together is the better way
[19:13:28] <Swen> you mean the SRV check?
[19:13:34] <ben> yep
[19:13:49] <Swen> i will paste the command
[19:13:53] <Swen> one sec
[19:15:55] <Swen> you can check this through a simple dig command
[19:15:57] <Swen> like this
[19:15:58] <Swen> dig SRV _xmpp-server._tcp.jabberheaven.com
[19:16:17] <Swen> or dig SRV _xmpp-client._tcp.jabberheaven.com
[19:16:18] <ben> yes, thats clear, thought you used matthias ertls script from the ML
[19:16:46] <Swen> ah, no i didn't i just checked the ping resolve, SRV records and website
[19:17:26] <Swen> those "offline" ones haven't had any response to any of these checks
[19:19:01] <ben> I'll see if it could be used against a list of servers, so we could do regular checks on the whole list
[19:19:10] <ben> (the script)
[19:19:26] <ben> would also reduce manual work to approve new servers
[19:19:33] <Swen> that would be very helpfull
[19:19:55] <ben> as far as i can see, it checks all criteria for being added to list (http://xmpp.org/resources/public-services/verification/)
[19:20:46] <Swen> besides of the personal contact i guess
[19:20:55] <ben> sure :P
[19:21:19] <Swen> but the precheck could be done through this script, that would save a lot of time
[19:46:44] <ben> I'm trying to put applications of this year into a processable list-form…we should consider putting up a form for people to fill out, so this could also be scripted...
[19:49:12] <Swen> good idea
[20:04:49] *** stpeter shows as "online"
[20:05:44] <stpeter> hey guys, I'm back
[20:06:28] <stpeter> the primary check I really care about is to make sure that the real owners of the domain or admins of the service are the ones asking to be listed, thus the messages to hostmaster@ and so on
[20:06:49] <ben> hey
[20:07:03] <stpeter> but scripting the rest with a form etc. sounds good
[20:07:08] <ben> sure, personal contact should be first concern
[20:07:56] <ben> the scripting part is to make the boring stuff easier
[20:08:03] <stpeter> yep :)
[20:11:31] <stpeter> do you guys have the right permissions to modify the table?
[20:11:47] <ben> i can, but swen doesn't seem to be able
[20:11:51] <stpeter> hmm
[20:11:53] <stpeter> ok let me check
[20:12:07] <ben> i already hid the offline servers from the public table
[20:12:20] <ben> (the ones swen checked)
[20:12:29] <stpeter> you both have "Editor" status
[20:12:33] <stpeter> in WordPress
[20:12:39] <ben> hmm, thats weird :)
[20:12:42] <Swen> yeah could be my browser
[20:12:54] <Swen> sometimes i just hate chromium ;)
[20:12:58] <stpeter> hehe
[20:13:11] <stpeter> I use FF most of the time
[20:13:50] <Swen> i changed because of the weird java errors of FF... but the new one should be better, i'll give it a try
[20:13:59] <stpeter> ok
[20:14:11] <stpeter> if that doesn't help, I can make you both Administrators
[20:14:32] <Swen> shouldn't be neccessary
[20:15:47] <stpeter> unfortunately I need to be offline for the next hour or so, but tonight I will update the wiki page so we can start tracking the registrations
[20:16:20] <ben> do you know up to which month you "half-processed" applications?
[20:16:42] <stpeter> only up to July
[20:17:18] <ben> good, then i'll try to put the later ones into a processable format
[20:17:24] <stpeter> ok
[20:17:30] <Swen> great great :)
[20:17:40] <stpeter> sure, there are many since then
[20:17:54] <Swen> i will go offline too, i have to work tomorrow morning... and it's bedtime in germany right now ;)
[20:18:00] <stpeter> :)
[20:18:01] <ben> i already started, and now i understand why those things were postponed :)
[20:19:37] <Swen> allright, i'm off for now, see you guy's latest tomorrow morning, i will do some work on the list at work
[20:20:04] <ben> good night
[20:20:10] <Swen> my luck taht i'm working for a domain registrar ;)
[20:20:23] <Swen> good night
[20:20:25] <stpeter> so I have half-processed (verified that domain owners approve) these: chrome.pl, tigase.im, jabber.me, weavver.com, univers-libre.net, jabber.earth.li, rkquery.de, lightwitch.org, xmpp-hosting.de, and theforest.us
[20:20:42] <stpeter> Swen: tschüss
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[20:21:05] <ben> hey, you have an "ü"-key :)
[20:21:28] <stpeter> ben: if you have time, you can update http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Public_Services with that information, or I can do it a bit later today
[20:22:02] <stpeter> no, I have alt-u to make an umlaut as a combining character, then I can type another key like 'u' or 'y'
[20:22:56] <ben> unfortunately I'm sharing time-zones with swen, so I'll have to hit the bed too in about an hour, but I'll post everything i have done to the wiki-page
[20:23:14] <stpeter> oh yeah no hurry :)
[20:23:18] <ben> so, not native ü :)
[20:23:37] <stpeter> as you can see, we have a backlog since almost a year -- a few days won't be so bad :)
[20:23:45] <stpeter> right, it's not native ü
[20:23:53] <stpeter> I am in America after all :)
[20:25:01] <ben> thats why I was wondering :)
[20:25:09] <stpeter> :)
[20:26:24] <stpeter> ok, I'm going to log off now, but I will update the wiki page this evening (only 14:24 here)
[20:27:25] <ben> have a nice rest-day
[20:27:50] <stpeter> danke schön, und güte nacht :)
[20:27:54] <stpeter> tschuss!
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