XMPP Service Operators - 2017-12-13


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  96. edhelas ok, I start to get many spams that are always coming in pair
  97. edhelas a spammy message + invitation
  98. Ge0rG edhelas: invitation or subscription request?
  99. edhelas subscriptions
  100. Ge0rG Yeah, annoying. But not useful.
  101. Ge0rG My server only leaves through the subscription requests, because those come first
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  104. Ge0rG And there is no easy way to pull them back automatically
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  130. edhelas lona8798@yax.im
  131. Ge0rG edhelas: already deleted that one.
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  162. 404 I hate these spammers. They manage spam from the telegram and forums.
  163. Ge0rG 404: pardon?
  164. 404 I receive a lot of spam from different servers. Smelly rats.
  165. 404 Spammers are avenging me. I've banned spammers.
  166. Ge0rG And what about Telegram and forums?
  167. Ge0rG I've deleted another 300 spammers on my server today.
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  170. 404 Spammers direct the dispatch through a telegram. Telegrams do not ban them.
  171. 404 https://telegram.org/
  172. 404 Lair of spammers
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  183. Ge0rG 404: I don't understand.
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  185. uc Telegram does xmpp??
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  187. Zash No
  188. Ge0rG I know from a reliable source that XMPP spammers use XMPP.
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  208. 404 Ge0rG: Spammers are looking for customers in a telegram
  209. Ge0rG 404: they are also looking in jabber. I can tell you the JIDs of some spam sending services.
  210. 404 Ge0rG: show JIDs
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  213. Ge0rG 404: scroll down in https://pastebin.com/EhEFzMQg
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  215. 404 telegram @jabservice
  216. 404 Another contact @CyborgHawk
  217. Ge0rG 404: there are JIDs in that pastebin
  218. Ge0rG here are two more JIDs: https://pastebin.com/raw/3QsfWC7T
  219. 404 They constantly change Jid. This is one person.
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  222. Ge0rG 404: I think the two links I gave are different entities.
  223. Ge0rG And then there is https://xmppspam.net/users/sign_in
  224. Ge0rG 404: different prices, different contacts
  225. 404 Ge0rG: probably they are different. maybe the base is the same?
  226. Ge0rG 404: maybe, maybe not. I don't know
  227. Ge0rG but I do know that you can easily get rid of them by rejecting multi-line messages from strangers.
  228. Ge0rG and messages with pastebin links
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  231. 404 Ge0rG: Debian 9 / ejabberd 16.09 does not support this
  232. Ge0rG 404: bug zinid over in xsf@
  233. Ge0rG or Holger
  234. 404 Ge0rG: ok
  235. 404 Ge0rG: Thanks
  236. Ge0rG 404: in prosody, there is mod_firewall that allows message blocking in very fine-grained ways.
  237. Holger Ah. Failed to figure out the question from reading a few lines of backlog :-)
  238. Holger There's no such ejabberd module unfortunately.
  239. Holger There's mod_block_strangers to ... block strangers.
  240. Ge0rG And blocking strangers is bad for the XMPP ecosystem.
  241. Ge0rG Holger: you could rename it to mod_block_spammers :P
  242. Holger Spam is bad for the XMPP ecosystem as well.
  243. Holger And right now we don't have perfect solutions, so we must resort to workarounds. mod_block_strangers is one of them.
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  245. Holger But I don't like/use it myself either.
  246. Ge0rG Holger: you could write mod_block_multiline_strangers
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  248. Holger Yes I considered that.
  249. Ge0rG it could even auto-reject a pending subscription from the sender.
  250. Holger I mean, still considering it :-)
  251. Holger Plus maybe another few simple checks.
  252. Holger I.e. poor-man's mod_firewall.
  253. Holger is good at considering things.
  254. Zash Holger: Wasn't there a Ruby-like Erlang-compatible language? Elixir maybe? Is that DSL-friendly? (Ruby is IIRC)
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  256. Holger Yes it is.
  257. Holger That's the #1 feature of Elixir compared to Erlang.
  258. Ge0rG And then you link a Lua runtime into ejabberd.
  259. Holger The rest is just syntax cosmetics.
  260. Holger Ge0rG: We already do (for prosody2ejabberd) :-)
  261. Holger https://github.com/rvirding/luerl
  262. Holger Works quite well.
  263. Ge0rG Holger: you just made my head explode.
  264. Ge0rG Holger: also, you can just provide bindings to mod_firewall with luerl :P
  265. Zash Load Prosody modules in ejabberd?
  266. Holger The p1 blog post will be interesting.
  267. Zash Then call out to some Python via https://pypi.python.org/pypi/lupa/
  268. Holger Sounds great!
  269. Ge0rG "Ejabberd now comes with prosody bundled" makes for some interesting marketing
  270. Zash That kind of thing rarely works out tho
  271. Holger "The next release will also ship Openfire!"
  272. Ge0rG Reminds me of Electron apps.
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  277. Zash Java-to-JavaScript thingy and run Openfire in the browser?
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  280. Holger https://github.com/hypernumbers/LuvvieScript
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  282. Holger 404: See, lots of helpful suggestions :-)
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