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[09:14:23] <edhelas> dong3692@chatme.im
[09:15:37] <Link Mauve> -contact chatme.im
[09:15:39] <Bunneh> Link Mauve: Contact addresses for chatme.im are mailto:assistenza@chatme.im (support, security, sales, admin, feedback, abuse) xmpp:admin@chatme.im (support, security, sales, admin, feedback, abuse)
[09:15:45] <Link Mauve> edhelas, here.
[09:15:58] <edhelas> yup, contacted him ;)
[09:16:14] <404.city> -contact chatme.im
[09:16:14] <Bunneh> 404.city: Contact addresses for chatme.im are mailto:assistenza@chatme.im (support, security, sales, admin, feedback, abuse) xmpp:admin@chatme.im (support, security, sales, admin, feedback, abuse)
[09:16:38] <404.city> -contact 404.city
[09:16:40] <Bunneh> 404.city: Contact addresses for 404.city is xmpp:admin@404.city (abuse)
[09:16:53] <edhelas> -contact movim.eu
[09:16:55] <Bunneh> edhelas: Contact addresses for movim.eu are xmpp:edhelas@movim.eu (security, admin, abuse) xmpp:movim@conference.movim.eu?join (support, feedback)
[09:16:58] <edhelas> \o/
[09:17:33] <404.city> -contact jabber.ru
[09:17:37] <Bunneh> 404.city: jabber.ru doesn't have any contact addresses
[09:17:53] <404.city> -contact yax.im
[09:17:53] <Bunneh> 404.city: Contact addresses for yax.im are mailto:georg@yax.im (admin, abuse) xmpp:georg@yax.im (security, admin, abuse)
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[09:32:18] <Ge0rG> trouble on my server?
[09:34:22] <Ge0rG> Oh, just had a bot at jonnie2718@yax.im; killed it now
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[11:06:58] <404.city> Ge0rG, no
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[11:07:50] <404.city> I'm playing with a bot Bunneh
[11:09:07] <404.city> We need to ban spammers, not their bots
[11:09:16] <mathieui> why not both
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[11:11:14] <404.city> These bastards have settled on rotten servers, where they are not banned
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[11:11:50] <mathieui> just ban the rotten servers
[11:12:44] <404.city> It is necessary both, to ban their contacts, it is more effective than banning their bots
[11:13:27] <Ge0rG> 404.city: I'm blocking comms to all JIDs inside the ads
[11:13:36] <Ge0rG> This is something that could backfire though.
[11:14:24] <404.city> Ge0rG, how do you find them?
[11:15:24] <Ge0rG> 404.city: I log spammy messages and have a look into new schemes regularly
[11:16:57] <404.city> I once complained to the server administrator's spammer. Admin was in cahoots with spammers.They arranged an attack on the server 404.
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[11:17:28] <Ge0rG> 404.city: yeah, some servers are just operated by crazy nuts
[11:18:48] <404.city> I complained about the contact of the spammer, not the bot
[11:19:39] <404.city> This is the hardest hit on them. When banned spam accounts
[11:20:55] <404.city> These bastards turn into telegrams. The telegram ignores abuses
[11:21:38] <Ge0rG> the last spam wave is run for rdpmaster@xmpp.jp by https://pastebin.com/raw/3QsfWC7T
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[11:22:00] <Ge0rG> > reklama@jabbim.com reklama@protonxmpp.ch reklama@ajabber.me
[11:24:11] <404.city> Does anyone want to try their luck and give the abuses to the administrators of these servers?
[11:27:39] <404.city> Some admins get money from spammers. They sell roster their users for pennies
[11:28:56] <404.city> These bad admins send messages about abuses, directly to spammers.
[11:34:11] <404.city> Ge0rG I'm ready to add to this sheet https://github.com/ge0rg/jabber-spam-fighting-manifesto , but so far, I do not have an account on github
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[11:52:14] <Link Mauve> Speaking of which, mathieui: https://github.com/ge0rg/jabber-spam-fighting-manifesto/pull/12
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[11:55:43] <Link Mauve> 404.city, you could probably give the line you want added to Ge0rG for him to add it himself, if you prefer.
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[12:14:24] <404.city> Link Mauve, Team 404, 404.city (https://404.city/)
[12:14:57] <404.city> Ge0rG, Team 404, 404.city (https://404.city/)
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[14:13:20] <Maranda> I had no more spim at all from when I implemented mod_spim_block
[14:13:44] <Maranda> Spim bots are just dumb bots true story
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[14:36:28] <Ge0rG> 404.city: I know I'm a bastard, but I insist on real names from people who want to sign something
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[14:56:22] <404.city> Ge0rG, Anthony , 404.city (https://404.city/)
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[15:00:41] <Ge0rG> 404.city: it's slowly getting better, but we aren't there yet. Do you have an imprint?
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[15:19:37] <Zash> -contact chatme.singles
[15:19:40] <Bunneh> Zash: Contact addresses for chatme.singles are mailto:assistenza@chatme.im (support, security, sales, admin, feedback, abuse) xmpp:admin@chatme.im (support, security, sales, admin, feedback, abuse)
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[15:26:09] <Ge0rG> singles! yay!
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[15:33:47] <zuglufttier> Singles that want to chat!
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[15:41:08] <Ge0rG> what's next? chatme.roulette
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[15:41:51] <Zash> chatme.(every domain possible)
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[15:44:38] <Ge0rG> -contact chatme.xxx
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[15:44:39] <Bunneh> Ge0rG: Could not reach chatme.xxx: Server-to-server connection failed: DNS resolution failed
[15:45:08] <Zash> untapped potential
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[15:51:12] <404.city> Ge0rG, I do not have a inprint
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[15:52:05] <Ge0rG> 404.city: would you mind publishing your full name? Or do you have some cypherpunk moniker under which you are known in the community?
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[15:55:59] <404.city> Ge0rG, I receive letters with fake orders. Do you want the hackers to enter the full real name on the fake orders?)
[15:56:51] <Ge0rG> 404.city: I understand your problem. So what about the second part? ;)
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[16:15:17] <404.city> Ge0rG, Оk. Wolf
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[16:25:40] <Ge0rG> 404.city: just "Wolf"? Okay.
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[16:28:19] <Maranda> letters with fake orders :O
[16:28:50] <Zash> Fake invoices and stuff?
[16:28:52] <404.city> Ge0rG, Add me to this list. I support the fight against spam
[16:29:13] <404.city> Zash, yes
[16:29:55] <Zash> Forward them to your trash bin or the police?
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[16:31:35] <Maranda> or both
[16:34:16] <Maranda> oh... two usb-c ports? woot? ASUS what is this sorcery.
[16:34:23] <Ge0rG> 404.city: added you.
[16:35:14] <404.city> Ge0rG, Ok. Thanks you
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[16:41:09] <Martin> 404.city:
>Inactive accounts are automatically deleted after 404 days
Lol, and mam and uploads expire after 404 days too?
[16:41:44] <Maranda> MAM can't expire
[16:41:53] <MattJ> Yes it can
[16:42:19] <Maranda> It's only an illusion, sync!
[16:42:49] <Maranda> what about sync if it expired :P!
[16:43:06] <404.city> Martin, No mam. Uploads - 2 day
[16:43:13] <MattJ> Maranda, I've been on XMPP since ~2003... do I really need to sync 15 years of messages when I set up my new phone? :)
[16:43:37] <Maranda> MattJ, of course, and watch it explode in a thousands confetti.
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[16:43:52] <Maranda> 🤣 🤣
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[16:44:10] <MattJ> Right. My phone is sometimes off, but never more than a few days. So MAM expiry of ~1 week seems fine to me :)
[16:44:16] <Zash> Yeah, our goal is to reproduce the Skype experience, right?
[16:44:51] <Zash> It's just not right without crashing three times while syncing on starup
[16:44:52] <Maranda> haha
[16:45:41] <404.city> MattJ, This is a good time
[16:46:34] <MattJ> I'm working on client tracking in Prosody - at some point I'd like to just automatically remove messages that have already been received by all the user's active clients
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[16:47:07] <Maranda> This is a snow time, lots of snow ®️
[16:47:16] <Zash> MattJ: Some marginal tho
[16:48:40] <MattJ> Zash, "don't delete if newer than X days"? Sure
[16:49:17] <Zash> Oh wait is "marginal" the swedish word?
[16:49:17] <404.city> Zash, Video calls would be useful
[16:49:50] <Zash> 404.city: I had that, on my phone, over XMPP, years ago. But now none of that works anymore.
[16:50:48] <Zash> MattJ: Such that replacing eg a phone doesn't eat messages.
[16:51:19] <404.city> https://conversations.im/gsoc.html
[16:51:26] <404.city> Jingle encrypted A/V calling

Software Project: Conversations
Software URL: conversations.im
Software VCS URL: github.com/siacs/Conversations
Software Description Conversations is a state of the art mobile instant messaging client for Android. It provides a modern user experience and is on top of the current developments in XMPP standards.
Brief explanation: The ability to make voice and video calls is by far the most requested feature for Conversations. With Jingle there is a standard extension in XMPP to negoitate P2P audio and video sessions. Implementing video calls faces many challanges. Not only network and bandwidth wise but also UX wise.
Quite frankly this is a rather challenging project. We aim to actually merge the code that comes out of GSoC and we can't merge the code if the UX is bad (either because of too many edge case where it simply doesn’t work or because it looks terrible.)
Expected results:
Make libwebrtc build in Conversations
Setup some basic A/V calls between two Conversations clients
Translate the SDP output of libwrtc to Jingle syntax
(Re)negoitae the session on network switches or screen rotations
Implement a great accept call and call UI
Difficulty: Very hard
Implementation Language: Java/Android
Contact Details: MUC at gsoc@conference.conversations.im

[16:51:46] <MattJ> \o/
[16:52:28] <Zash> Guess how many times I used the voice/video calling on my N900
[16:52:43] <Ge0rG> MattJ: you really want to break the new device use case?
> at some point I'd like to just automatically remove messages that have already been received by all the user's active clients
[16:53:03] <Zash> Ge0rG: Why I said "margins"
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[16:53:39] <MattJ> Ge0rG, what is the "new device use-case"?
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[16:53:47] <MattJ> When setting up a new device, how much history do you expect?
[16:53:59] <Ge0rG> MattJ: dunno.
[16:54:07] <Ge0rG> I suppose 14 days should be more than enough
[16:54:13] <Ge0rG> 640KB!
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[16:55:30] <Maranda> why 14 days of MAM history should exactly be 640KB? Intriguing 🤔
[16:55:59] <MattJ> it should be enough for everyone, Maranda
[16:57:02] <Maranda> MattJ, I'm more curious about the value.
[16:57:54] <Ge0rG> Maranda: https://www.computerworld.com/article/2534312/operating-systems/the--640k--quote-won-t-go-away----but-did-gates-really-say-it-.html
[16:58:01] <Maranda> Ohhhh
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[17:00:58] <Maranda> jokes apart, I already "expire" MAM entries and with much prejudice they just "fall of after x messages"
[17:01:06] <Maranda> :P
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