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[09:13:12] <zuglufttier> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-privacy/france-builds-whatsapp-rival-due-to-surveillance-risk-idUSKBN1HN258
Yeah, just create another secure messenger!
[09:13:50] <edhelas> actually it seems to be based on matrxi
[09:14:11] <Ge0rG> edhelas: do you have a source for that?
[09:14:25] <zuglufttier> Because Matrix is so stable.
[09:14:35] <edhelas> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16855501
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[09:22:13] <Ge0rG> > Would you say it's a correct description of Matrix to call it "Jabber/XMP without the whole XML mess and over HTTP"?
HN at its best
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[09:23:53] <Maranda> the whole xml mess!!
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[09:25:06] <Maranda> Substitute "one mess" with another, call it JSON, add REST somewhere == Profit!!!
[09:25:50] <edhelas> <span class="c00">Would you say it's a correct description of Matrix to call it "Jabber/XMP without the whole XML mess and over HTTP"?<span>
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[09:26:02] <edhelas> B-) XML mess over HTTP
[09:26:03] <Maranda> Haha
[09:28:22] <Maranda> https://upload.lightwitch.org:5280/share/5a298c6f-2995-4825-8736-897a7bda164f/CDLprokeRxCEbZl3hE0zKQ.gif
[09:30:04] *Maranda thinks that now that he can post memes all over, you're doomed.
[09:30:16] <Maranda> DOOMED I SAY!
[09:31:29] <Ge0rG> Get me out of here!
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[09:32:49] <Maranda> 😏
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[09:37:44] <Maranda> Ah damn it forgot to add 3gp
[09:37:55] <Maranda> I knew I forgot something
[09:38:07] <Maranda> (as usual)
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