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[11:03:24] <pod> are there any known issues with samsung phones and stream management ?
i have two clients (both samsung users) that are shown as online but as soon as they receive a message, ejabberd tries to resume the session, which usually fails after approx 7 minutes and then the contact is offline - the messages they receive during that process are never delivered
[11:04:16] <Ge0rG> pod: that's a complex issue. What client are those people using?
[11:04:28] <pod> conversations
[11:05:02] <Ge0rG> pod: Samsung phones do have interesting battery saving features, but those should be worked around by Conversations' battery permission plus proper Push support.
[11:05:28] <Ge0rG> pod: are they using the most recent Conversations version? Are there any holes in the server support info list of Conversations?
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[11:07:12] <pod> Ge0rG, yes, both are using the most recent conversations version (1 from fdroid the other from playstore) and the server does have all the modules enabled besides the non standard tls thingy
[11:07:45] <pod> but this is not in the info list anyway
[11:08:06] <Ge0rG> pod: I think you should leverage that in xmpp:conversations@conference.siacs.eu?join then; Daniel and zinid and Holger there are the perfect team to resolve the issue
[11:09:30] *Holger goes read the backlog once the Dovecot sever who lost his RAID controller is back alive @work ...
[11:10:06] <pod> Ge0rG, thanks i am already in those mucs but i thought this maybe this is something another xmpp server admin has solved before :)
[11:11:28] <MattJ> pod, it may help if you think about things the other way around - you wrote "ejabberd tries to resume the session"
[11:11:40] <MattJ> but it is the client that must initiate that
[11:12:30] <MattJ> What I'm guessing happens is, ejabberd thinks the connection is fine, but sending a message makes it discover the connection is actually broken (this is a... feature... of TCP)
[11:13:14] <MattJ> I'm planning to gather some stats on exactly how much of the time mobile clients are successfully connected to my server
[11:13:20] <pod> MattJ, exactly, that is what i think happens - that is why i consider that samsung fw is the reason for it
[11:13:27] <MattJ> and how long it typically takes them to resume
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[11:16:32] <Ge0rG> MattJ: or you could do some work on fixing the existing issues of mod_cloud_notify and friends ;)
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[11:16:58] <MattJ> s/fixing the existing issues of/rewriting/
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[11:17:23] <Ge0rG> MattJ: whatever fixes them
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[19:47:11] <Maranda> @version lightwitch.org
[19:47:11] <Echo1> Maranda: lightwitch.org is running Metronome version 3.8.11 on something very pretty
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