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[17:53:32] <404.city> Licaon_Kter, s2s_use_starttls: required_trusted now . We will fuck unprotected connections. The test check.messaging.one problem is corrected. Thanks Holger
[17:54:54] <Licaon_Kter> 404.city: so you changed it to "required" or "optional* or?
[17:56:55] <404.city> Licaon_Kter, s2s_use_starttls: "required" to s2s_use_starttls: "required_trusted"
[17:57:09] <Link Mauve> Holger, and the iteam, could you give a score malus for allowing unencrypted connections?
[17:57:36] <Link Mauve> Capping it to something which is not A if StartTLS is only allowed.
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[18:16:53] <pep.> +1 to that
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[18:18:27] <Link Mauve> Also maybe even for allowing untrusted or invalid s2s.
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[18:20:43] <Maranda> Untrusted is dumb you're singling out anyone with their PKIX infra
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[18:23:53] <Link Mauve> Maranda, it can be extended with DANE, POSH and other methods once someone provides code to check for those.
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[18:32:35] <Holger> Link Mauve: I don't care about such recommendations, but I'd apply your patches.
[18:33:00] <Link Mauve> Did you push your last changes somewhere, btw?
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[18:38:18] <Holger> No, these are the patches:

https://check.messaging.one/patches/xmppoke.diff.txt
https://check.messaging.one/patches/xmppoke-frontend.diff.txt
[18:38:47] <Holger> I didn't have the patience to split them up into commits unfortunately.
[18:39:04] <Holger> The frontend stuff is messy.
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[19:33:37] <Maranda> https://conference.lightwitch.org/pastebin/e9bf0985-7021-451e-9356-7f5efca0deca
[19:33:43] <Maranda> ๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿค”
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[19:34:27] <Maranda> -version momomaestro.com
[19:34:27] <Bunneh> Maranda: momomaestro.com can't be reached via XMPP (Server-to-server connection failed: DNS resolution failed)
[19:34:44] <Maranda> -version memomaestro.com
[19:34:49] <Bunneh> Maranda: memomaestro.com is running ejabberd version 0.0 on unix/linux 3.5.0
[19:35:22] <Maranda> ๐Ÿ˜ฑ
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[20:17:46] <Martin> ๐Ÿ‘ถjabberd
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[21:24:30] <Licaon_Kter> So why did the bot respond with a *different* address?

*memo* vs *momo*
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[21:33:49] <Maranda> Because of LMC?
[21:33:50] <Maranda> ๐Ÿ˜‹
[21:36:37] <Licaon_Kter> Riiiight, it's a time glitch...
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