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[12:21:50] <madmalkav> hey guys, what and how do you check the health of your xmpp servers? you check the processes, the listeners, the availability of DB, ...
[12:21:52] <madmalkav> anything else
[12:21:52] <madmalkav> ?
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[12:24:05] <pep.> I guess you can have a client that connects every so often and tries to do some actions
[12:24:36] <edhelas> madmalkav I check the complains on Twitter
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[12:25:14] <edhelas> https://status.conversations.im/ is actually doing that pep. no ?
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[12:26:12] <pep.> No
[12:26:20] <pep.> That checks disco I think
[12:27:12] <pep.> I mean it depends how thorough you want to be
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[12:29:37] <madmalkav> I don't want my company to call me at 4am because some operators are not receiving notifications on their cells
[12:30:19] <pep.> Well, if it's not the company it would be some kind of automated notification, you can't really escape that
[12:30:28] <madmalkav> and if that happens, I want my scripts to start the incident measures before people start calling in pacnic
[12:30:30] <madmalkav> 🙂
[12:31:05] <madmalkav> yeah, but if I automate it OK I can i.e. generate a warning to the 24/7 support to make some steps, and, if the steps fails, call me
[12:31:28] <madmalkav> ie., what is failing is DB, call DB guys, not me 😃
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[12:31:51] <pep.> So the important bit is not the 4am, it's that you know before your users :)
[12:32:28] <madmalkav> being serious now, the important thing is detecting as soon as possible and as best as possible to minimize the downtime to a minimum
[12:33:05] <pep.> So yeah depending on how thorough you want to be, you can have checks on the server, and also emulate client behaviour
[12:33:17] <madmalkav> I can monitor with shell scripts, or python, but I will need help for that, and I can generate warnings to the 24/7 team so they take measures , or directly call me or other teams
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[12:34:15] <pep.> If you do something like that for the client I'm also interested BTW :-°
[12:34:26] <Holger> I have Nagios/Icinga anyway and use a simple check plugin to talk to an echo bot.
[12:35:04] <madmalkav> If I do something like that I won't be able to share it , probably . I will have to redo it in a different way so company doesn't say I'm stealing their IP
[12:35:06] <Holger> (Plus separate database/HTTP checks, but that's about it.)
[12:35:09] <madmalkav> fuck big companies
[12:35:36] <Holger> I would suggest a proper monitoring tool rather than inventing wheels.
[12:35:47] <Holger> reinventing even
[12:36:15] <madmalkav> I thought you knew me well enough to know I don't have a word on deceiding what and how it is done
[12:36:16] <madmalkav> 😃
[12:36:37] <Holger> Using existing software is bad?
[12:36:53] <Holger> Seems you weren't forced to implement an XMPP server from scratch at least :-)
[12:37:29] <madmalkav> here there is a lot of internal developed software that is totally obsolete but they bosses are being slow on moving on. I've hearing on moving surveillances to Zabbix for at least 2 years
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[12:38:05] <madmalkav> My boss is a reasonable guy with lots of technical knowledge and he wants to run away from reinventing the wheel as soon as possible, but he is an exception here
[12:39:34] <madmalkav> So, zabbix / nagios / ... already have XMPP surveillance modules?
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[12:41:49] <Holger> Dunnu about Zabbix, that has stuff built-in, maybe. Nagios/Icinga and others have nothing built-in but call simple stand-alone scripts/binaries to perform the actual checks.
[12:42:20] <Holger> You'll find tons of such checks on the web, I wrote the XMPP check I'm using myself though.
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[18:27:38] *** fp-tester shows as "away" and his status message is " (Abwesend wegen Untätigkeit für mehr als 5 Minuten)"
[18:27:54] *** fp-tester shows as "online"
[18:31:29] *** UsL has left the room
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[18:40:58] *** vanitasvitae shows as "online"
[18:42:58] *** fp-tester shows as "away" and his status message is " (Abwesend wegen Untätigkeit für mehr als 5 Minuten)"
[18:46:24] *** Maranda shows as "away" and his status message is " (Assente per inattività dopo più di 5 minuti)"
[18:46:45] *** Marzanna shows as "online"
[18:52:58] *** fp-tester shows as "xa" and his status message is " (Nicht verfügbar wegen Untätigkeit seit mehr als 15 Minuten)"
[18:55:56] *** Maranda shows as "online"
[18:56:58] *** Marzanna shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being a pony more than 5 min)"
[18:57:51] *** Marzanna shows as "online"
[19:01:13] *** vanitasvitae has left the room
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[19:01:36] *** Maranda shows as "online"
[19:02:02] *** Maranda has left the room
[19:02:11] *** Maranda shows as "online"
[19:03:15] *** jjrh has left the room
[19:03:19] *** jjrh shows as "online"
[19:08:41] *** jjrh has left the room
[19:08:42] *** jjrh shows as "online"
[19:17:28] *** (-: has left the room
[19:17:43] *** Maranda has left the room
[19:18:03] *** Maranda shows as "online"
[19:24:21] *** (-: has joined the room
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[19:27:45] *** jjrh shows as "online"
[19:35:22] *** css has left the room
[19:37:00] *** Marzanna shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being a pony more than 5 min)"
[19:42:30] *** jjrh has left the room
[19:42:48] *** jjrh shows as "online"
[19:43:08] *** blabla has left the room
[19:44:07] *** info-screen shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being idle more than 5 min)"
[19:44:11] *** info-screen shows as "online"
[19:44:29] *** info-screen shows as "xa" and his status message is " (Not available as a result of being idle more than 15 min)"
[19:44:33] *** info-screen shows as "online"
[19:45:35] *** Marzanna shows as "online"
[19:46:40] *** Holger has left the room
[19:46:43] *** Holger shows as "online"
[19:51:01] *** Marzanna shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being a pony more than 5 min)"
[19:55:09] *** Maranda shows as "away" and his status message is " (Assente per inattività dopo più di 5 minuti)"
[19:56:20] *** info-screen shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being idle more than 5 min)"
[19:59:49] *** kmq shows as "online"
[20:01:02] *** Marzanna shows as "xa" and his status message is " (Not available as a result of being a pony more than 15 min)"
[20:04:35] *** ibikk has left the room
[20:05:09] *** Maranda shows as "xa" and his status message is " (Non disponibile per inattività dopo più di 15 minuti)"
[20:05:57] *** carlos shows as "online"
[20:06:17] *** info-screen shows as "xa" and his status message is " (Not available as a result of being idle more than 15 min)"
[20:09:46] *** fp-tester shows as "online"
[20:10:53] *** ibikk has joined the room
[20:15:24] *** (-: has left the room
[20:15:45] *** info-screen shows as "online"
[20:15:51] *** kmq shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being idle more than 5 min)"
[20:16:01] *** info-screen shows as "xa" and his status message is " (Not available as a result of being idle more than 15 min)"
[20:16:05] *** info-screen shows as "online"
[20:16:17] *** kmq shows as "online"
[20:22:00] *** pep. has left the room
[20:22:35] *** Licaon_Kter has joined the room
[20:26:32] *** Marzanna shows as "online"
[20:26:39] *** SamWhited has left the room
[20:34:32] *** Maranda shows as "online"
[20:37:51] *** lorddavidiii has left the room
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[20:49:33] *** Odin has left the room
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[20:50:53] *** kmq shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being idle more than 5 min)"
[20:54:42] *** pep. shows as "online"
[20:55:58] *** kmq has left the room
[20:57:36] *** SamWhited shows as "online"
[21:10:13] *** 404.city shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being idle more than 5 min)"
[21:15:29] *** 404.city shows as "online"
[21:26:01] *** blabla has left the room
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[21:28:02] *** Maranda shows as "away" and his status message is " (Assente per inattività dopo più di 5 minuti)"
[21:30:34] *** probably has left the room
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[21:31:31] *** MattJ shows as "away"
[21:33:00] *** probably has left the room
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[21:33:36] *** probably has joined the room
[21:35:33] *** probably has left the room
[21:35:34] *** probably has joined the room
[21:38:02] *** Maranda shows as "xa" and his status message is " (Non disponibile per inattività dopo più di 15 minuti)"
[21:39:54] *** andrey.utkin shows as "online"
[21:40:07] *** andrey.utkin shows as "online"
[21:40:17] *** andrey.utkin shows as "online"
[21:43:50] *** Maranda shows as "online"
[21:52:47] *** kmq has left the room
[21:52:50] *** kmq shows as "online"
[21:55:53] *** 404.city has left the room
[21:56:17] *** Neustradamus shows as "away"
[21:57:26] *** carlos has left the room
[21:59:13] *** carlos shows as "online"
[22:02:08] *** kmq has left the room
[22:02:20] *** kmq shows as "online"
[22:07:39] *** kmq shows as "online"
[22:08:25] *** pod has left the room
[22:09:07] *** madmalkav has left the room
[22:10:12] *** equil shows as "online"
[22:12:42] *** jjrh has left the room
[22:12:43] *** jjrh shows as "online"
[22:14:22] *** Licaon_Kter has left the room
[22:18:45] *** info-screen shows as "xa" and his status message is " (Not available as a result of being idle more than 15 min)"
[22:18:47] *** info-screen shows as "online"
[22:21:07] *** edhelas has left the room
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[22:26:01] *** kmq shows as "online"
[22:28:02] *** Zash has joined the room
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[22:31:36] *** Zash has joined the room
[22:32:35] *** Zash has left the room
[22:33:17] *** kmq shows as "online"
[22:34:29] *** equil shows as "online"
[22:35:48] *** Zash has joined the room
[22:36:12] *** SamWhited has left the room
[22:36:23] *** Zash has left the room
[22:37:05] *** edhelas has left the room
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[22:37:31] *** Zash has joined the room
[22:38:21] *** Zash has left the room
[22:39:34] *** Zash has joined the room
[22:39:57] *** Zash has left the room
[22:42:12] *** Zash has joined the room
[22:43:34] *** Zash has left the room
[22:44:05] *** jjrh has left the room
[22:44:14] *** jjrh shows as "online"
[22:45:46] *** Maranda shows as "away" and his status message is " (Assente per inattività dopo più di 5 minuti)"
[22:46:34] *** seantodd has left the room
[22:47:08] *** Zash has joined the room
[22:47:28] *** Zash has left the room
[22:48:21] *** Zash has joined the room
[22:49:04] *** Zash has left the room
[22:51:20] *** seantodd shows as "online"
[22:51:33] *** jjrh has left the room
[22:51:34] *** jjrh shows as "online"
[22:52:00] *** Zash has joined the room
[22:52:01] *** jjrh has left the room
[22:52:03] *** jjrh shows as "online"
[22:52:27] *** equil shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being idle more than 5 min)"
[22:53:17] *** equil shows as "online"
[22:53:34] *** Zash has left the room
[22:54:26] *** Zash has joined the room
[22:54:38] *** Zash has left the room
[22:55:36] *** Zash has joined the room
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[22:57:03] *** Zash has joined the room
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[23:00:05] *** info-screen shows as "xa" and his status message is " (Not available as a result of being idle more than 15 min)"
[23:00:05] *** probably has left the room
[23:00:07] *** info-screen shows as "online"
[23:00:08] *** probably has joined the room
[23:00:50] *** probably has left the room
[23:01:05] *** probably has joined the room
[23:01:32] *** jjrh has left the room
[23:01:33] *** jjrh shows as "online"
[23:01:38] *** probably has left the room
[23:01:39] *** probably has joined the room
[23:02:00] *** jjrh has left the room
[23:02:01] *** jjrh shows as "online"
[23:02:24] *** SamWhited shows as "online"
[23:07:13] *** seantodd has left the room
[23:07:15] *** seantodd shows as "online"
[23:10:04] *** kmq has left the room
[23:10:50] <pep.> Also forgot to mention metrics, but he's gone now
[23:11:26] <pep.> (Prometheus and the like, some services export this kind of stuff directly)
[23:11:35] *** kmq shows as "online"
[23:11:57] *** jjrh has left the room
[23:11:58] *** jjrh shows as "online"
[23:18:54] *** SamWhited has left the room
[23:19:01] *** SamWhited shows as "online"
[23:20:40] *** seantodd has left the room
[23:20:42] *** seantodd shows as "online"
[23:21:32] *** jjrh has left the room
[23:21:33] *** jjrh shows as "online"
[23:21:48] *** jjrh has left the room
[23:21:49] *** jjrh shows as "online"
[23:25:57] *** equil shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being idle more than 5 min)"
[23:31:39] *** jjrh has left the room
[23:32:06] *** jjrh shows as "online"
[23:34:56] *** peter has joined the room
[23:35:57] *** equil shows as "xa" and his status message is " (Not available as a result of being idle more than 15 min)"
[23:36:51] *** equil shows as "online"
[23:41:40] *** jjrh has left the room
[23:41:57] *** equil shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being idle more than 5 min)"
[23:42:19] *** jjrh shows as "online"
[23:44:07] *** equil shows as "online"
[23:44:18] *** Maranda shows as "xa" and his status message is " (Non disponibile per inattività dopo più di 15 minuti)"
[23:44:19] *** Maranda shows as "online"
[23:44:23] *** Maranda shows as "online"
[23:46:44] *** Zash has left the room
[23:50:02] *** peter shows as "away" and his status message is "Auto Status (idle)"
[23:50:16] *** info-screen has left the room
[23:51:32] *** jjrh has left the room
[23:51:33] *** jjrh shows as "online"
[23:51:49] *** jjrh has left the room
[23:51:50] *** jjrh shows as "online"
[23:52:02] *** info-screen shows as "online"
[23:52:09] *** equil shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being idle more than 5 min)"
[23:56:15] *** equil shows as "online"
[23:58:38] *** Maranda shows as "away" and his status message is " (Assente per inattività dopo più di 5 minuti)"
[23:59:30] *** Maranda shows as "online"