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[13:20:05] <debacle> I get a lot of invitation spam from blackjabber.com and unstable.nl. Are those well-known spammers? (Is this the right MUC to discuss spam/spim anyway?)
[13:21:47] <Ge0rG> debacle: blackjabber.com is a well-known abandoned server
[13:22:34] <Ge0rG> unstable.nl probably as well
[13:23:17] <Ge0rG> I'd love to add both to https://github.com/JabberSPAM/blacklist but nobody had the time so far to contact them and document it
[13:24:32] <Ge0rG> But it's a good reminder to run my spam stats again.
[13:25:23] <debacle> Ge0rG: So far only one server on the list? otr.chat
[13:26:11] <Ge0rG> debacle: yes
[13:26:22] <Ge0rG> debacle: do you have time to write abuse reports? ;)
[13:26:42] <debacle> I would first need to learn how to do that properly.
[13:26:55] <Ge0rG> debacle: which server implementation do you run?
[13:27:14] <debacle> prosody 0.11
[13:28:41] <Ge0rG> that was the right answer! 😁
[13:29:44] <debacle> Almost true: prosody 0.11*.1*
[13:31:27] <Ge0rG> messages bots domain
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19110 4363 safetyjabber.com
14258 8565 blackjabber.com
5078 1641 jabber.hasufell.com
4717 1370 jabber.cd
4225 1064 legalize.li
4118 1497 incognito.cf
2639 1956 unstable.nl
1586 1130 jabber.sampo.ru
1373 876 jabber.crans.org
1151 465 securejabber.me
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[13:55:01] <Ge0rG> German ISPs not handling abuse@, today: Strato AG
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[14:12:02] <Neustradamus> debacle: yes I have published a big list from me and other too
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[14:16:48] <MattJ> Neustradamus, but your list includes servers that have not been asked to fix anything - the admins of most of them are probably unaware there is any problem
[14:17:02] <MattJ> and then you punish legitimate users of those servers by blocking them
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[15:16:37] <Ge0rG> MattJ: but Neustradamus has published a list!
[15:17:29] <Neustradamus> I have of course contacted a lot of XMPP server admins ^^
[15:18:15] <Ge0rG> I just realized that pvpctutorials.de is a dyndns box
[15:18:17] <mightyBroccoli> Neustradamus, it is about the documentation. Blocking out of the blue will not help anyone.
[15:18:39] <Neustradamus> Yes yes
[15:19:07] <Ge0rG> Of the dozen or so reports I sent, four hosts were shutdown, and half of the others reduced / stopped spam
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[16:35:51] <Ge0rG> Anyone got a contact at SafetyJabber / SJ?
[16:41:10] <Maranda> 🤔
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[16:52:37] <Neustradamus> Ge0rG: I have published links from ML previously on XSF
[16:53:40] <Ge0rG> Neustradamus: I'm not interested in links from ML, I'm interested in documentation of how you contacted the server admins and when.
[16:53:51] <Ge0rG> Neustradamus: I gave you the link to the blacklist README already.
[16:54:41] <Neustradamus> Email from SJ is on it...
[16:54:52] <Neustradamus> I search ML links for you
[16:54:55] <Ge0rG> Neustradamus: thanks
[16:56:14] <Neustradamus> [jdev] clients list,..
https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/jdev/2013-January/thread.html
[jdev] adding to list
https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/jdev/2013-February/thread.html
[jdev] clients list,..
https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/jdev/2013-March/thread.html
https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/jdev/2013-April/thread.html
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[17:00:27] <Ge0rG> Neustradamus: that's a five year old gmail address.
[17:00:41] <Neustradamus> Yes yes it is about SJ
[17:01:36] <Neustradamus> Time passes so quickly
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[17:02:47] <Ge0rG> Just saying that the personal gmail of a developer from five years ago hardly qualifies as contact data for a server operator
[17:03:40] <Neustradamus> it is a good start ^^
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[17:05:00] <Ge0rG> do you want to contact that gmail and ask whether they are officially responsible for the xmpp server?
[17:13:39] <Neustradamus> You are the best to do it :)
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[17:14:22] <Ge0rG> Neustradamus: no, you are better than me in running after people and reminding them of things
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[19:05:20] <pep.> hahaha
[19:05:45] <pep.> Ge0rG, I think you're pretty close nonetheless
[19:06:00] <pep.> You don't explicitely poke people, you just rant where it's visible :P
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