XMPP Service Operators - 2019-08-06

  1. SouL

    kevin, hey, sounds awesome! But I recommend you to join jdev@conference.jabber.org instead, this room (even if the same people hang out here and on the other one), is more for operatin an XMPP server, and the other one is for development, so maybe you get more attention there

  2. jonas’

    joining jdev@ isn’t always possible

  3. jonas’

    at the moment

  4. SouL

    <cry/>

  5. jonas’

    because conference.jabber.org runs a very old server version and has deprecated security settings which are now rejected by some implementations.

  6. tom

    can OMEMO be used in XEP-0184?

  7. jonas’

    define "used"

  8. tom

    well

  9. tom

    all I see are a place for the <body></body> field

  10. Ge0rG

    tom: OMEMO will only encrypt the body, yes.

  11. tom

    not really a space for specifying the kind of message

  12. jonas’

    you can use XEP-0184 to acknowledge OMEMO messages

  13. jonas’

    you cannot hide using OMEMO that you acknowledged a message using XEP-0184

  14. Ge0rG

    (you should only send the 0184 receipt after you successfully decrypted the message)

  15. tom

    no i'm talking about sending an omemo encrypted email over xeo0184

  16. Ge0rG

    you what?

  17. jonas’

    what

  18. tom

    i've been writing XEP0184 queries by hand to send emails

  19. jonas’

    are you *sure* you’re using the right XEP number here?

  20. jonas’

    XEP 0184 is https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0184.html

  21. tom

    was wondering if I could send encrypted ones

  22. tom

    yes

  23. jonas’

    that doesn’t make any sense

  24. tom

    it pops up like an email on some clients

  25. tom

    I dont know why

  26. jonas’

    because you’re using type="normal" or type="headline" and pidgin as a client.

  27. tom

    is it not supposed to do that?

  28. jonas’

    that has nothing to do with XEP-0184

  29. jonas’

    (where omitting the type is equivalent to type="normal")

  30. tom

    there's a type?

  31. tom

    ok

  32. tom

    so that's why it does that

  33. tom

    thanks

  34. jonas’

    https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6121#section-5.2.2

  35. tom

    i'll have to play with this

  36. kevin

    SouL, I joined Jdev before and they usually have board meetings there

  37. kevin

    so i thought it would be better to join so that i dont bother people

  38. Ge0rG

    kevin: the board meetings are in xsf@, not in jdev@

  39. kevin

    hmm am i mixing the channels up. Could have swore i joined a jdev and everyone was having a meeting

  40. kevin

    whatever i will use Jdev from now on

  41. jonas’

    board meetings are only weekly in xsf@, and standards/development discussion happen there quite frequently

  42. kevin

    got it

  43. SouL

    What the others said :) and welcome to the community, kevin !