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  482. aj how does xmpp compare to matrix? Does matrix solve any of the problems that the xmpp ecosystem is facing?
  483. jonas’ sure. it also introduces different problems
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  491. aj what sorts of problems jonas’?
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  493. aj I've never used matrix much so I only know the pain points of xmpp
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  500. vanitasvitae aj: in my experience their server is *very* slow
  501. vanitasvitae Their imolementation that is
  502. vanitasvitae Logging in took some 30 seconds at times.
  503. jonas’ aj, it is very intensive on resources
  504. vanitasvitae XMPP is much more responsive. But obviously your milage may vary from server to server.
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  509. muppeth and it logs everything you do and say in the database forever. including everything form the past on every room you join (from the creation of the room)
  510. Licaon_Kter muppeth: and replicates it to all the servers of all the participants
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  516. aj Ah, yeah, I came to the same conclusions vanitasvitae and jonas’
  517. aj I just feared that all the hype has gone onto matrix, there aren't many people working on XMPP anymore
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  525. MattJ There are plenty of us working on XMPP :)
  526. muppeth aj, indeed, but there is lately quite some people moving to xmpp and also some people that actually do some dev work
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  547. pep. Matrix also advertises E2EE _and_ gateways, they're really keen on that (almost like they invented gateways!). Two features mostly incompatible (lots of pain guaranteed)
  548. Ge0rG pep.: but they HAVE invented gateway! Just 15 years after Jabber did.
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  605. muppeth Thats because they are bridges not gateways 😋
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  609. tom they are bery keen on that because they don't want to compared to or compete with XMPP on a technical and merit basis
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  650. Licaon_Kter Conveniently only the XMPP bridge is abandoned...not Facebook, Discord, Slack, IRC, Telegram or even Tox
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