XSF logo XMPP Service Operators - 2019-08-18


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  184. Licaon_Kter morgan: why the sad muc?
  185. morgan Im feeling so bad
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  204. morgan aj: ok
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  368. tom >Conversations has a grant at the moment for implementing A/V, and some money comes in from commercial requests That's good. Curious which orgranizations are requesting jingle in their conversations
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  370. pep. tom, they're probably not requesting Jingle but A/V
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  372. tom is there a difference
  373. pep. Sure. Jingle is an implementation detail
  374. pep. Only the end result matters to them I'm sure, that A/V works
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  399. tom speaking of adding av support to things
  400. tom How difficult do you think it would be to fork Gajim 0.16.9 and replace the dependence on gstreamer-0.1 and libfarstream with ffmpeg?
  401. tom another thing that could be useful is reworking session management to use elogind rather than python-gnome2
  402. tom that way it should be WM agnostic and work fine with i3wm etc
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  404. tom It's something I've been thinking about for a while now since gajim 1.X is only buildable against the gtk3 graphical toolkit, (which I and many other people I know find untolerable on a desktop) and replaces menus/icons with hamburger buttons
  405. tom forces animations, bezels etc and keeps breaking it's api
  406. tom me and a few others have masked updating to the gajim 1.x series until we figure something else out.
  407. tom unfortunately it doesn't look like psi+ fills those needs or any other XMPP client that I know of
  408. tom and Gajim 0.16.X being pretty much perfect already minus the dependence on deprecated libs for jingle extensions
  409. tom I can program in python just fine, but most people I know are not programmers
  410. tom and the Gajim 0.16.X code...... needs some cleanup
  411. tom and uses one letter variables which I'd have to figure out what it really is and fix.
  412. tom It's not like similar projects haven't been completed in the path. There was a drastic need for a plain old SIP softphone because sflphone somehow morphed into a giant multi-hundred megabyte blob with support for like 2 different p2p networks
  413. tom and linphone became some sort of android-to-linux port even though it started out as a workstation program. weird. It's like they kept re-writing the whole thing from scratch every major release until the thing was practically a different program
  414. tom because of this some guy decided he had enough and hunkered down to patch up TwinklePhone to build on modern systems
  415. tom and now a lot of people connecting their SIP telephone service use Twinkle
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