tom>Conversations has a grant at the moment for implementing A/V, and some money comes in from commercial requests
That's good. Curious which orgranizations are requesting jingle in their conversations
pep.tom, they're probably not requesting Jingle but A/V
tomis there a difference
pep.Sure. Jingle is an implementation detail
pep.Only the end result matters to them I'm sure, that A/V works
tomspeaking of adding av support to things
tomHow difficult do you think it would be to fork Gajim 0.16.9 and replace the dependence on gstreamer-0.1 and libfarstream with ffmpeg?
tomanother thing that could be useful is reworking session management to use elogind rather than python-gnome2
tomthat way it should be WM agnostic and work fine with i3wm etc
tomIt's something I've been thinking about for a while now since gajim 1.X is only buildable against the gtk3 graphical toolkit, (which I and many other people I know find untolerable on a desktop) and replaces menus/icons with hamburger buttons
tomforces animations, bezels etc and keeps breaking it's api
tomme and a few others have masked updating to the gajim 1.x series until we figure something else out.
tomunfortunately it doesn't look like psi+ fills those needs or any other XMPP client that I know of
tomand Gajim 0.16.X being pretty much perfect already minus the dependence on deprecated libs for jingle extensions
tomI can program in python just fine, but most people I know are not programmers
tomand the Gajim 0.16.X code...... needs some cleanup
tomand uses one letter variables which I'd have to figure out what it really is and fix.
tomIt's not like similar projects haven't been completed in the path. There was a drastic need for a plain old SIP softphone because sflphone somehow morphed into a giant multi-hundred megabyte blob with support for like 2 different p2p networks
tomand linphone became some sort of android-to-linux port even though it started out as a workstation program. weird. It's like they kept re-writing the whole thing from scratch every major release until the thing was practically a different program
tombecause of this some guy decided he had enough and hunkered down to patch up TwinklePhone to build on modern systems
tomand now a lot of people connecting their SIP telephone service use Twinkle