XMPP Service Operators - 2019-09-10

anyone here studied the matrix protocol before? Is it just me or is matrix mostly hype?

It's not only hype

They have clients that offers features and gives what people wants today. XMPP don't

This makes people use the matrix protocol

edhelas: I'd react to your message, but I can't ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

when they first launched i recall they had some absolute garbage on their web site about why they didn't use xmpp, so I never looked at it again. what do they do that they couldn't have done without rolling their own backend?

mike: let's ask Xabber and their new server...

Is yax.im down?

Ge0rG: ?

last I checked running a matrix server was a pain

pip install start

for synapse? or are there other implementations now? it was really resource heavy

Synapse yes there is something in Go i think

ah that's cool then. progress at least.

although I wish they'd just worked on xmpp instead 😕

Dendrite in Go is WiP...

Allie: _that XML man, it's so old, no one can use that_

lol

JSON is the one true way! because, like... reasons

but what about yaml

and toml!

wait wait... what if a messaging system was built atop YAML?!

actually we should create our own DSL for this

then we could be heroes (just for one day)

hehehe

Allie: then users from Norway would be false.

bowlofeggs: 🙂👍

when I'd set up matrix before it was basically silly to try an federate because like 99% of people just used the main homeservers. and then there's all the stupid bridging on freenode that makes it look like bazillions of matrix users are always logged in