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  236. edhelas O_o
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  244. Link Mauve I remember using that.
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  294. edhelas so you can launch irssi within SSH over XMPP 🤔
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  310. bowlofeggs and you could ssh to a machine to do that
  311. bowlofeggs and you could set up an XMPP <--> IRC gateway somewhere in this puzzle as well
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  327. edhelas 🤯
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  405. mss_cyclist Does anyone know a good European privacy disclaimer template? If possible for the Netherlands. It is ridiculous what you need to cover...
  406. Ge0rG mss_cyclist: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/GDPR#Q1.2:_What_consequences_does_the_GDPR_has_for_the_XMPP_server_operators
  407. mss_cyclist Ge0rG: top. I was not aware of this. It is a really good base. May I use this or do I have to give credits for it?
  408. Ge0rG mss_cyclist: we developed it back in the day as a template for xmpp service operators
  409. Ge0rG mss_cyclist: TBH, I wrote it for https://yaxim.org/yax.im/privacy/ and the it got templated
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  414. mss_cyclist Ge0rG: Nice. May I use your privacy and tos as a template as well?
  415. Ge0rG mss_cyclist: feel free. just remove my name from it ;)
  416. mss_cyclist Ge0rG: Thanks
  417. jonas’ insert obligatory "IANAL" here, Ge0rG
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  419. mss_cyclist Do you need to provide a lust of data which you gather from users as well as a person responsible for processing that data in Germany?
  420. Ge0rG that!
  421. Ge0rG mss_cyclist: it depends on how good your lawyers are
  422. mss_cyclist Haha
  423. mss_cyclist Why that?
  424. Ge0rG mss_cyclist: because GDPR is complicated and not easy to interpret
  425. mss_cyclist Yeah. In the Dutch version of it they do mention this responsible person and a list which must be at hand immediately for the authorities. Wondering if this us part if the GDPR or if this is a Dutch speciality to make it even more difficult to offer a free XMPP service.
  426. mss_cyclist s/us/is
  427. Ge0rG mss_cyclist: I'm pretty sure it's based on the GDPR.
  428. Ge0rG mss_cyclist: depending on how critical the data is and how much of it you hoard, you might or might not have to create "Records of processing activities"
  429. mss_cyclist Ge0rG: So talking about plain standard xmpp server (ejabberd)
  430. Ge0rG mss_cyclist: while I'm sure there is no strict legal need to outline all those things in the privacy policy, I consider it a good practice for a public xmpp service.
  431. Ge0rG mss_cyclist: any standard xmpp server, yes
  432. mss_cyclist There should be no critical data logged. Except for what the user willingly shares with other users by messaging.
  433. jonas’ which could be quite critical :)
  434. mss_cyclist Ge0rG: So, you have such a list?
  435. Ge0rG mss_cyclist: it's right there in the template
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  437. mss_cyclist Ge0rG: I did not mean this. More like this one (docx): https://www.dsgvo-verstehen-bayern.de/cms/upload/Downloads/Vereine/Verzeichnis-von-Verarbeitungstaetigkeiten_Stand_19.07.18.docx
  438. Ge0rG mss_cyclist: I'm not going to open random malware
  439. mss_cyclist Ge0rG: sorry. I was searching for this link: https://www.ldi.nrw.de/mainmenu_Datenschutz/submenu_Verzeichnis-Verarbeitungstaetigkeiten/Inhalt/Verarbeitungstaetigkeiten/Verarbeitungstaetigkeiten.html
  440. mss_cyclist There are some pdf templates
  441. mss_cyclist This is another dimension than these standard disclaimers I come across
  442. Ge0rG mss_cyclist: hmm... right. Not sure how large the overlap is, and I'm currently not in a position to work on GDPR. Sorry
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  444. mss_cyclist Ge0rG: No problem. We are no lawyers. I thought this is not only an issue for me, but for all European operators. So I was questioning myself wheater anyone else came across these additional documents which apparantly need to be kept track of.
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  465. tom My prosody server keeps crashing
  466. tom 11.4 linux
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  468. tom No idea why. Nothing in logs
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  470. Ellenor Malik Switch to another jabber server
  471. tom Why?
  472. tom I've changed logging level from info to debug
  473. tom Hopefully if it happens it something will say some info
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  481. tom I would like to find the cause before going though all the work of converting server
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  487. jonas’ tom, check dmesg
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  490. tom lua5.2[12433]: segfault at 307be564 ip 00005649bbfa4652 sp 00007fff00a11760 error 4 in lua5.2[5649bbf92000+31000]
  491. tom I didn;t know Lua could segfault
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  500. jonas’ tom, report that in xmpp:prosody@conference.prosody.im?joinM
  501. jonas’ tom, report that in xmpp:prosody@conference.prosody.im?join
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