XMPP Service Operators - 2020-03-16

Hey, I'm trying to install my XMPP server on a Raspberry Pi but it don't work...

which server?

Prosody

and what "doesn't work"?

Well

I can't connect to it

is it running?

I think yes

do you have a firewall?

is dns configured?

When a make a restart I get that:

[ ok ] Restarting prosody (via systemctl): prosody.service.

you could ask in the prosody dev room. Maybe they can help? (not a prosody user)

How can I go there ?

xmpp:prosody@conference.prosody.im?join

And sorry, but how can I configure the DNS?

well, if you want to connect to the server from "outside" of your network (i.e. not your local lan) you have to enable port forwarding in your router and configure dynamic dns in case you dont have a stable IP address.

here is a guide that should cover everything you need: https://jacksonjs.github.io/2016/09/09/prosodyonpi/

vanitasvitae, it’s a bad idea to suggest self-signed certificates to beginners (or to anyone really).

This guide also uses the ssl option, which has been deprecated in recent versions of Prosody.

And the legacy non-systemd way of starting services.

it was the best I found in 2 mins 😛

if you have a better guide, hokori696 is still here 😛

It’s bad, you shouldn’t link it.

At least, not without checking that it is better than nothing.

https://homebrewserver.club/configuring-a-modern-xmpp-server.html is the guide we recommend for a modern Prosody.

hokori696 ^

Yep sorry

I already enable port forwarding

And i followed this tutorial for xxmp installation http://raspberrypi.tomasgreno.cz/xmppjabber-server.html

xmpp*

Eww, suggesting Pidgin. :x

😁

Yeah, 99% of guides for Prosody are terrible

and I grew to realise this is just true for 99% of all guides for all software setup

Yes. I keep failing at understanding what people like in unofficial documentations

Well, I know that for Prosody we don't actually have any guide/tutorial-based content right now

In general I think the problem is that guides are either written by developers who know the project too well to make a decent guide, or they are written by random people who wrote the guide while learning how to set it up themselves

The good guides are in the middle

The other problem is that even the good guides are usually not kept up-to-date.

That too

> Link Mauve has written: > And the legacy non-systemd way of starting services. So apparently all operating systems which are not Linux are now legacy. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Ellenor Malik, why? And how do you infer that?

systemd absolutely requires Linux, and you are calling any way of starting prosody that does not involve systemd legacy.

Ellenor Malik, this guide is for some Debian (derivative?) running on a Raspberry Pi, it doesn’t preclude other guides being written for other platforms.

But on Debian, it can create actual problems to mix and match methods to start Prosody.

We’ve seen users wonder why no changes were applied, only to realise they had two instances of Prosody running due to this issue.

Underscoring the importance of PID files.

Or, you know, using your init system to manage its services.