Summits, Conferences and Meetups workgroup - 2019-09-12


  1. pep.

    The stickers I got, that go on *the budget* then?

  2. daniel

    yes

  3. pep.

    Ok, it'd be cool if we had something to visualize all that. I think

  4. daniel

    like a spreadsheet?

  5. pep.

    I've spent short of 400$, so we've got the rest to spend for CCC!

  6. pep.

    Or we can actually use that for the coming sprints

  7. pep.

    Food etc.

  8. pep.

    daniel, we can try and more or less organize things for at least the stockholm sprint and get this approved within the team?

  9. daniel

    not sure there is another one coming this year

  10. daniel

    oh forgot about stockholm :-)

  11. pep.

    Yeah I'm not entirely sure either after stockholm. I am interested though in gathering and working on specific things (that could also be called sprints, but maybe not with the numbers)

  12. daniel

    yes snacks and drinks (from the supermarket so not really expensive) is probably something to think about

  13. pep.

    I really think we should try to encourage small "working groups"

  14. pep.

    Not big-ish events like we're doing

  15. pep.

    3-4 people is already good and can be a lot more productive than 10

  16. daniel

    it's complicated(tm)

  17. daniel

    because if you let scam handle it and announce it then people actually want to come

  18. daniel

    which is a good thing obviously

  19. daniel

    but then you can’t limit it to 3 people

  20. pep.

    Yeah. Maybe we can organise more at the same time in different places to try and confuse the enemi

  21. pep.

    Yeah. Maybe we can organise more at the same time in different places to try and confuse the enemy

  22. daniel

    i mean when i sat down with marvin in berlin that was super productive. so i get the 3-4 people thing

  23. pep.

    I'm fine splitting the small group of people that always goes to sprints for some time, if it allows us to do this more often

  24. daniel

    but that's outside of what scam can do i'm afraid

  25. pep.

    What I don't want is that all resolves around me organizing things :/

  26. pep.

    Because that's not going to go forever (as much as I like it)

  27. pep.

    And yeah otherwise spreadshit or equivalent for the budget would be good

  28. daniel

    yeah dunno. it'll work out. berlin is already done by another team

  29. pep.

    (yes it's on purpose)

  30. daniel

    maybe ralphm and Guus do the netherlands and some point

  31. pep.

    I might be planning to be in Japan early next year (and I just remembered about Summit/FOSDEM, gotta be careful), I wanted to try and do something there, but I know no one

  32. pep.

    I mean, devs in FOSS

  33. pep.

    I'll try to ask around

  34. daniel

    so should we officially ask scam for a budget of up to x (80 Euro?) to buy snacks and non alcoholic beverages for the 2.5 days of the stockholm sprint?

  35. pep.

    In Cambridge I had 400GBP, I think I spent not even half of that

  36. daniel

    buy you were also buying 'real food'

  37. daniel

    *but

  38. pep.

    Yeah

  39. daniel

    i wouldn’t go so far to do this for this sprint yet. start small (just snacks and drinks) and if that is a good experience for scam we do more for the next one

  40. pep.

    Sure. 80EUR of snacks surely is a lot of snacks

  41. pep.

    Fortunately we have a car!

  42. daniel

    it's sweden

  43. pep.

    Does that mean stuff is expensive? Or that there's no konbini at the corner?

  44. pep.

    Or that we'll be hungry? :P

  45. daniel

    but we are also 10 people. 8 euro per person for a weekend doesn’t sound too much

  46. daniel

    all of the above

  47. pep.

    ok

  48. pep.

    Yeah worksforme

  49. daniel

    i was mostly thinking of sweden being expensive

  50. pep.

    Nÿco, what do you have in mind for POSS?

  51. pep.

    I guess there will be people in Paris at that time

  52. pep.

    Might be good indeed to have a booth, and all the other things you mention on the card :)

  53. Nÿco

    booth, talks, meetup, sprint, whatever

  54. Nÿco

    Smile is organising

  55. Nÿco

    we need to hurry up

  56. Nÿco

    two years ago we had a booth but we shared it with Goffi and me (MongooseIM at that time)

  57. Nÿco

    that was not enough

  58. daniel

    not enough in what regard?

  59. Nÿco

    we might apply for a track, a half day of conferences

  60. Nÿco

    not enough impact

  61. Nÿco

    not enough material: flyers, stickers, etc.

  62. daniel

    i can’t find a call for paper on the POSS website. how does that work?

  63. daniel

    oh it's only linked from the banner

  64. daniel

    nvm

  65. Nÿco

    three years ago with Erlang Solutions, we came for MongooseIM, it was cool, had time and budget, with true flyers, stickers, rollerbanner, aaand apples

  66. ralphm

    pep. If we run out of budget, we can just ask Board for moar

  67. Nÿco

    daniel : if you find an interesting track for you, then cool but we may create a special track decentralisation? instant messaging? real-time web? whatever, provided we fill it and it is valuable for the organisers

  68. Nÿco

    oh, one precision:

  69. pep.

    ralphm, we? Are you in SCAM because you're in board? :P

  70. pep.

    (note, I'm happy you're doing $things)

  71. ralphm

    No because I do much on Summit / FOSDEM

  72. Nÿco

    the POSS booths are organised in two halves: the village, which is communities, so non-profit the business, you know what it means

  73. Nÿco

    the business booth is $$$ the village booth is free, gratis

  74. Nÿco

    I can suggest we go for a booth in the village, for free, as the XSF this booth can host non-profit projects also, we can suggest a track to the organisers

  75. daniel

    cfp doesn’t really look like my talk fits in. and they have no 'other' section

  76. Nÿco

    nevermind, we can make your conf fit, or fit a track for your conf

  77. Nÿco

    what is it?

  78. Nÿco

    (I know people...)

  79. daniel

    I would have offered to give my 'state of the xmpp community' talk

  80. daniel

    slightly modified to explain more what xmpp is before i dive in

  81. Nÿco

    cool

  82. Nÿco

    what other talks can we have to shape a full track?

  83. Nÿco

    I can do something around Team Chat

  84. daniel

    do those side tracks get an audience? is there any chance we can just get 1 or two talks into main?

  85. Nÿco

    that's gonna be difficult, given the current lack of traction of XMPP

  86. Nÿco

    small tracks are usually in room like classes, 20 to 40 people, rarely full, because the program is heavily loaded

  87. Nÿco

    last year I organised a track around open source startups, it went very well

  88. Nÿco

    https://twitter.com/nyconyco/status/1070651527566487552

  89. Nÿco

    ok, gotta go

  90. daniel

    who tweeted that https://twitter.com/xmpp/status/1172105727697129478 you need to . prefix the @

  91. daniel

    otherwise it is a mention and wont show up in other peoples streams

  92. Nÿco

    me

  93. Nÿco

    what is "you need to . prefix the @"?

  94. Nÿco

    it is not only a mention, it is a retweet with comment

  95. daniel

    Twitter treats that as a mention

  96. Nÿco

    btw that's Twitter, that should be a conversation to have on the commTeam room, not in this SCAM room... unless we consider the fusion is already effective :)

  97. daniel

    A reply I mean

  98. Nÿco

    a retweet it is

  99. daniel

    Yes. But as a reply to xabber

  100. Nÿco

    as a retweet

  101. Nÿco

    which has a good engagement rate so far

  102. ralphm

    There's no merge

  103. ralphm

    Please indeed do this in the other place

  104. daniel

    Not sure where comm is. But don't care. I was just trying to help

  105. Nÿco

    good, thx, just the tone

  106. Nÿco

    what do you think: should I untweet and re-retweet without the mention? or any other fix?

  107. daniel

    That was just meant as "for future reference" that's how Twitter works.

  108. daniel

    Probably not worth while fixing the old

  109. daniel

    Especially if it has likes and RTs

  110. Nÿco

    right, so...

  111. Nÿco

    thanks very much Daniel

  112. ralphm

    Indeed thanks. Also, commteam@

  113. daniel

    Thanks. I was trying comm@

  114. Nÿco

    so, do we fusion or not? ;-)

  115. ralphm

    Nÿco: no

  116. Nÿco

    argh