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XMPP Summit discussion

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[01:20:07] <mehyo.homs> ‏ Hi
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[06:37:40] <Steffen Larsen> anyone knows when the summit starts out today?… (zZzzzz)
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[06:40:20] <Kev> 09:30
[06:40:28] <Kev> Meeting for breakfast at 08:00, same as yesterday.
[06:40:32] <Steffen Larsen> ok thanks, kev
[06:40:47] <Kev> Enn pee.
[06:40:51] <Steffen Larsen> I'll try to get out of bed then..
[06:42:18] <Kev> That sounds like half a good idea.
[06:42:24] <Kev> The good half being 'bed'.
[06:42:55] <Steffen Larsen> :-)
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[09:14:46] <hildjj> https://cisco.webex.com/cisco/e.php?AT=WMI&EventID=216096772&PW=f77fca86e01406065c&RT=MiMxNDc%3D
[09:15:30] <stpeter> ?
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[09:16:49] <Zash> Rrrrrr...rain :/
[09:17:16] <Tobias> Zash, yeah...you promised me swedish summer whether....there was less rain in germany :P
[09:17:21] <Tobias> *weather
[09:18:17] <Zash> Tobias: Yeees, so?
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[09:20:21] <hildjj> fritzy: you're not missing anything yet. still lots of milling about.
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[09:24:58] <fritzy> hildjj: yup, I can tell. Thanks. :) You're awesome.
[09:25:02] <fritzy> BTW, you've gotten into my head
[09:25:10] <fritzy> I'll have to send you a document I'm working on
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[09:26:39] <bear> http://piratepad.net/Y9Wfgxzies <-- I'm taking notes here
[09:27:05] <fritzy> muahaha... I'm the host now
[09:27:07] <fritzy> for some reason
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[09:32:33] <Dave Cridland> Is that Webex™ URL updated in the WIki?
[09:33:26] <bear> it will be...
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[09:35:58] <bear> wiki has been updated with webex link
[09:35:58] <hildjj> really, you're giving me crap about the WebEx trademark now? Do you also want to own Cisco™ ?
[09:36:38] <Zash> stpeter: Can I smuggle a friend into the summit?
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[09:36:56] <lloydwatkin> @peter: Jonny Heavey, arriving around lunch time
[09:36:56] <lloydwatkin> @peter: JonnyHeavey, arriving around lunch time.
[09:37:03] <hildjj> Zash: answering for Peter. Yes. Let me know when they get here, and i'll go sign them in at the front desk.
[09:37:03] <Kev> hildjj™, no I think I'm ok about that.
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[09:37:23] <Zash> Okay
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[09:40:02] <Zash> I'll be there in about the time it takes to take the metro and train etc
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[09:45:42] <Steffen Larsen> the blog: http://blog.fanout.io/2012/10/17/standards-at-the-edge/
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[09:47:05] <stpeter> Zash: yes
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[10:01:11] <fritzy> no audio?
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[10:04:50] <bear> hildjj is fixing
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[10:05:20] <fritzy> it's ok. I think I've said what I have to say about the JSON stuff, other than I'm warming up to Joe's radical ideas.
[10:05:24] <fritzy> Otherwise, you guys have fun.
[10:05:38] <fritzy> I'm going to try to put in a full work day at the office in the morning, so I'm going to head to bed.
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[10:05:58] <fritzy> you guys enjoy!
[10:06:12] <fritzy> Thanks for working so hard to let me participate yesterday!
[10:06:24] <Kev> NN fritzy.
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[10:38:19] <l-fy> ehlo Mr. Summit Sir.
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[10:44:52] <stpeter> :)
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[10:58:20] <bear> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna-00
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[11:02:00] <hildjj> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-miller-xmpp-posh-prooftype-01
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[11:12:04] <lloydwatkin> @simon, you have to stop using the m' reference, you'v been marked (see examples) http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/So_simple,_your_mother_could_do_it
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[12:19:36] <Jef> good day
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[12:20:56] <Zash> ohai
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[12:21:04] <Jef> :)
[12:21:21] <Jef> webex is not working
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[12:21:36] <Zash> :(
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[12:22:33] <Jef> it says: "The meeting has been cancelled!"
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[12:22:42] <Zash> :(
[12:22:54] <Zash> We should try to get MattJ in there too
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[12:25:47] <hildjj> https://github.com/quartzjer/js0n/blob/master/js0n.c
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[12:27:20] <hildjj> Jef: https://cisco.webex.com/cisco/e.php?AT=WMI&EventID=216096772&PW=15c10114061d03&RT=MiMxNDc%3D
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[12:28:17] <Jef> yes, it works now
[12:28:19] <Jef> thanks
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[12:37:41] <Jef> audio volume is a bit low
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[12:38:31] <stpeter> hi Jef, could you please mute?
[12:38:41] <stpeter> we'll look into the audio levels
[12:38:45] <Kev> (Unless you want to talk)
[12:38:48] <Jef> ok
[12:39:03] <Tobias> or type something here if you want someone to proxy your message
[12:39:13] <Jef> i am at work, so there is a lot of noise here
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[12:46:52] <bear> can't we add to socket.io an xmpp transport?
[12:47:09] <bear> so that it becomes just another way of hooking clients together
[12:47:28] <Zash> if it's a common api to multiple transports, sure, why not?
[12:47:28] <Lance> that might work. it would map very cleanly to pubsub
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[12:47:56] <Lance> and then we really would just implement everything on pubsub
[12:48:00] <bear> ye
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[12:56:17] <Lance> https://github.com/superfeedr/xmpp-server
[12:56:21] <hildjj> th
[12:56:22] <hildjj> x
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[13:04:16] <Zash> "Everyone needs to implement Carbons and MAM" also
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[13:04:59] <Zash> I think that MattJ wrote a protoXEP for transporting JSON in XMPP
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[13:05:39] <bear> lance - think we could move prosody into redis lua ;)
[13:05:44] <Lance> no
[13:05:50] <bear> awww shucks
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[13:06:29] <Zash> what
[13:06:30] <Zash> the
[13:06:48] <Jef> i can't
[13:06:48] <Jef> I guess I will have to type
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[13:06:54] <bear> just ignore me - i was just musing about something silly zash
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[13:11:02] <stpeter> http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/fis.html
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[13:11:50] <Jef> I want to write a client
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[13:12:38] *stpeter notes that Jef has a prtotype impl in Gajim
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[13:13:01] <Jef> it is better if I think
[13:13:09] <Jef> it is better if i type
[13:13:18] <Zash> :D
[13:13:20] <stpeter> maybe -- we had some packet loss
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[13:13:30] <Zash> Send out a search party.
[13:13:54] <Jef> lol
[13:14:15] <Jef> if I am taking to long to respond type the question here...
[13:14:31] <Tobias> just type :)
[13:15:02] <Jef> :)
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[13:16:05] <Dave Cridland> Skype's chatrooms have filesharing stuffs.
[13:16:10] <Dave Cridland> Seems quite useful.
[13:16:18] <Jef> but the host would be the chatroom?
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[13:16:45] <darkrain> Dave: Brief (one/two sentence?) description of how that works?
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[13:16:54] <Dave Cridland> I'm actually not sure. It shows a file offer from a participant, but whether it's proxied by the room or not is hard to say.
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[13:17:00] <Lance> here was my feedback on cleaning up the xml structures in fis: https://gist.github.com/4629838
[13:17:36] <Jef> Lance, we should work together
[13:17:50] <Zash> Not sure, but Skype was P2P-ish before. And afaik, every conversation is a chat room. Including one-to-one
[13:17:52] <Jef> would you like to co-author?
[13:18:00] <Lance> Jef, sure
[13:18:12] <Jef> :)
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[13:18:32] <Dave Cridland> Zash, Yeah, I think its IM isn't very P2P.
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[13:18:34] <HanzZ> Zash: it is if I can judge that by its dbus api
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[13:19:24] <darkrain> What in particular in the API makes you say that?
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[13:19:42] <darkrain> ("in particular" at a high-ish level)
[13:20:00] <Zash> I started a chat with someone at the same time he started a chat with me. Two windows popped up. (This is years ago, may have changed)
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[13:21:13] <hildjj> https://cisco.webex.com/cisco/e.php?AT=WMI&EventID=216096772&PW=15c10114061d03&RT=MiMxNDc%3D
[13:21:17] <Jef> https://cisco.webex.com/cisco/e.php?AT=WMI&EventID=216096772&PW=15c10114061d03&RT=MiMxNDc%3D
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[13:21:42] <HanzZ> darkrain: well, it can do different things internally of course. but they just have CHAT object with id no matter how many people are there
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[13:21:58] <HanzZ> darkrain: I presume when the id is still the same, it's same also internally, but that doesn't have to be the true
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[13:23:30] <Eelco> skype is moving away from p2p. all (or most) chat has already been moved to microsofts backend. http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/22/3529600/skype-for-windows-8-screenshots-release-date-october-26th
[13:23:59] <Jef> that's because p2p is harder to evesdrop conversations
[13:24:01] <stpeter> Eelco: yes, interesting, eh?
[13:24:06] <Zash> Much fun
[13:24:09] <stpeter> Jef: :)
[13:24:57] <Dave Cridland> Is it possible to share the slides on screen via Webex?
[13:25:09] <stpeter> working on it
[13:25:10] <Dave Cridland> (No ™ just for hildjj)
[13:25:18] <stpeter> just a moment
[13:25:48] <Dave Cridland> The video feeds really good right now, BTW.
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[13:27:03] <Eelco> As for some easy to install XMPP service recipes (sorry for not putting this in earlier) this might be nice to look into: https://juju.ubuntu.com/ <https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/index.html>
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[13:27:27] <Dave Cridland> Oh, that's Emil in shot now?
[13:27:34] <Tobias> Dave Cridland, right
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[13:28:08] <Dave Cridland> And now a pot plant.
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[13:28:39] <Ash> Just looking at the fis spec - is there a particular reason why it couldn't be a pep node?
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[13:28:44] <victor@victorklos.nl> easy XMPP server install also via Puppet, e.g. https://github.com/rtyler/puppet-prosody
[13:29:03] <darkrain> victor@victorklos.nl: Ooooo
[13:29:07] <Dave Cridland> Thanks Zash.
[13:29:23] <Lance> Ash no reason, and that would be best for file change events
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[13:29:49] <victor@victorklos.nl> @darkrain yeah noticed...
[13:30:13] <Lance> the main thing is that it would be better done as collection nodes, because of arbitrary directory depths
[13:30:26] <Lance> so a single node item could become too large to deal with nicely
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[13:30:52] <darkrain> Victor: Have you used it? or is that you?
[13:31:25] <Victor> I built my own puppet extension. Not really difficult btw
[13:31:33] <Victor> (and got the alias right)
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[13:34:21] <stpeter> emil is talking about http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ivov-xmpp-cusax/
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[13:42:51] <stpeter> Adrian mentioned P-Asserted-Identity https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3325
[13:42:54] <stpeter> just FYI
[13:43:23] <stpeter> however, that won't work, because it is defined as follows:

A P-Asserted-Identity header field value MUST consist of exactly one
name-addr or addr-spec. There may be one or two P-Asserted-Identity
values. If there is one value, it MUST be a sip, sips, or tel URI.
If there are two values, one value MUST be a sip or sips URI and the
other MUST be a tel URI.

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[13:44:32] <stpeter> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-daboo-aggregated-service-discovery/
[13:46:20] <stpeter> Jef: BTW, thanks for joining
[13:47:07] <stpeter> Jef: we'll ping Diana to provide some more feedback on the list so that we can improve the spec, maybe merge it with XEP-0135 based on Lance's feedback, or whatever seems most appropriate
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[13:47:24] <Jef> no problem, I couldn't participate more because I at work
[13:47:47] <l-fy> Peter what should we do about XEP 0269
[13:47:56] <l-fy> we need to get that fixed today during the jingle disscusion
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[13:52:09] <Zash> To Jingle or not to Jingle :D
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[13:52:41] <l-fy> to Jingle
[13:52:41] <Steffen Larsen> sip it..
[13:52:43] <l-fy> every single day
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[13:52:48] <l-fy> so i can federate
[13:52:51] <l-fy> Federate JIngle :)
[13:53:01] <Zash> :D
[13:53:20] <l-fy> SIP builds silos because nobody will let a SIP server in the world unprotected
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[13:57:37] <Zash> http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0209.html
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[14:02:49] *stpeter notes for CUSAX purposes that we might want to say something about using a single ID if possible
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[14:04:20] <Dave Cridland> I'm actually hopeful that the acct URI stuff might encourage user account identifiers to be consistent in that respect.
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[14:07:16] <Dave Cridland> Have the hoodie/t-shirt stores been raided, yet, BTW?
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[14:07:26] <darkrain> Don't think so
[14:07:26] <Dave Cridland> Just concious that's one of the things that needs doing while in Diegem.
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[14:08:22] <Zash> Dave Cridland: Is your BIDI implementation fixed yet?
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[14:09:10] <Dave Cridland> Zash, I can't actually remember what the problems are with it. It'll work, it's just not enthusiastic about using bidi connections.
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[14:18:40] <stpeter> http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/BoshIssues
[14:18:48] <stpeter> http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/summit/2012-October/001200.html
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[14:19:48] <winfried> mam + carbons
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[14:19:57] <winfried> only solve with chats
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[14:20:06] <Zash> YES
[14:20:10] <Zash> MAM!
[14:20:14] <Zash> Carbons!
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[14:22:18] <hildjj> mam?
[14:22:28] <m&m> message archive management
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[14:22:48] <Zash> 313
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[14:24:22] <darkrain> 136 improved
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[14:27:50] <Zash> winfried: MattJ and waqas might have useful things to say about multi tab sessions btw
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[14:31:37] <stpeter> hi waqas
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[14:33:26] <waqas> Hey stpeter
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[14:34:41] <Tobias> hi waqas
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[14:38:28] <stpeter> note for SIP-XMPP discussion: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0280.html
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[14:39:47] <Zash> Carbons?
[14:40:35] <stpeter> yes :)
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[14:42:07] <Zash> I almost want to go check what you are talking about
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[14:44:56] <stpeter> Zash: it was just a side topic
[14:46:13] <Zash> Implement in all the clients!
[14:46:19] <stpeter> heh
[14:46:27] <stpeter> Zash: it's in Prosody, right?
[14:46:33] <Zash> Yes
[14:46:36] <stpeter> yay :)
[14:46:53] <Zash> http://code.google.com/p/prosody-modules/wiki/mod_carbons
[14:47:27] <Zash> stpeter: We lost m&m
[14:47:32] <stpeter> oh
[14:47:33] <Zash> How do we get him back?
[14:47:33] <stpeter> hrm
[14:47:38] <stpeter> he knows what to call
[14:47:42] <Zash> Ah, now
[14:47:43] <Zash> nm
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[14:50:45] <waqas> hildjj: Can you turn up the mic volume a bit in webex?
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[15:52:40] <stpeter> are you guys starting again about WebSocket?
[15:52:45] <Zash> Yes
[15:52:48] <Zash> come here!
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[15:57:37] <Steven Lloyd Watkin> Inspired by (insert-evil-word-here) talk to generate this https://github.com/lloydwatkin/xmpp-websockets-json
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[16:00:04] <Zash> Socket.io over XMPP?
[16:00:10] <Zash> Or under
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[16:05:21] <Steven Lloyd Watkin> essentially just socket.io with server talking to XMPP and talking to client in json
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[16:14:46] <fippo> hildjj: they must have heard us thinking about "beer" :-)
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[20:19:14] <Lance> what time do we head to fosdem?
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[20:23:13] <Kev> Lance: I do not know, but I would like to :)
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