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XMPP Summit discussion

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[15:41:49] <ralphm> I'm sure people in here have opinions on Swag. What kind of XMPP branded swag would you people like to pay for to own?
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[15:42:31] <ralphm> E.g. I believe Kev mentions something before, about it needing to be something he could also wear in work meetings, but I don't remember the specifics.
[15:43:06] <jjrh> stickers are usually a good go to
[15:43:36] <ralphm> I think we already have stickers, but sure, agreed.
[15:43:47] <ralphm> I was thinking more about clothing.
[15:43:56] <Kev> I don't think *needs* to be, but stuff that's slightly more workish than the usual t-shirts sound appealing.
[15:44:08] <Kev> Maybe I'm the only person who'd wear an XMPP (or XMPP Summit) Polo Shirt.
[15:44:55] <debacle> I've the hoody
[15:45:30] <jjrh> Polo shirts are popular for being work acceptable while casual enough to wear elsewhere. I think all of redhat's stuff is polo
[15:45:45] <debacle> But I like an espresso cup with the full text of 0060 printed on it
[15:46:16] <jjrh> I like zip up hoodys
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[15:47:27] <jjrh> I'll buy a tshirt or hoody and some stickers at the summit :)
[15:47:34] <Kev> T-Shirts are probably more likely to sell at FOSDEM. I wonder if there's any chance of doing what I've suggested before - a set number of summit items (preordered) just for participants in the summit, and then stuff for FOSDEM.
[15:47:44] <Kev> Do T-Shirt for FOSDEM, and Polo for the Summit, or such.
[15:49:47] <Guus> I can confirm that we have (many) stickers of one kind: the die-cut logo.
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[15:50:22] <Guus> oh, and we have a bunch of the 'hello my jid is' stickers too
[15:50:43] <Guus> if we do a summit thing, will that be sold, or presented as a gift?
[15:50:48] <Zash> Guus: 👍
[15:51:36] <Guus> I have a slight preference to sell clothing that's somewhat more durable than a shirt at FOSDEM
[15:51:41] <ralphm> Guus: for now I'm assuming we sell stuff
[15:51:56] <Guus> but I'm easily persuaded otherwise.
[15:52:15] <ralphm> And if we go for a t-shirt, I'd like it to indeed be a better material than all previous ones.
[15:52:23] <Guus> I don't think we should aim to sell shirts at the summit, which has at best 30 potential buyers.
[15:52:39] <Guus> not worth the hassle, I think.
[15:53:31] <Guus> I actually quite enjoy the hoodie that I have
[15:53:41] <Guus> maybe we should offer more than one item?
[15:53:49] <Guus> and put whatever is left in storage
[15:53:58] <ralphm> What we did before is have both T-shirts and Hoodies
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[15:54:29] <Guus> I'd not mind having something that zips, with a subtle logo - unsure if that'd be a big seller though
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[15:54:39] <ralphm> For t-shirts, I'd like e.g. 50/50 or triblend material. They stay better for longer times and are more comfortable.
[15:54:53] <Kev> Guus: I'm not suggesting the Summit sales for profit or anything, I just think it would be very cool for the Summit attendees to have something Physical out of it.
[15:55:14] <Kev> Not a hill for me to die on, but I'd think it cool.
[15:55:28] <Kev> But yes, someone has to put the effort in, and that's a hard sell.
[15:55:31] *Kev &
[15:55:33] <Guus> Kev sure - I'd either donate that, or pre-sell.
[15:55:48] <Guus> (to order the exact right amount, etc)
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[15:56:28] <Guus> (did Kev just put himself in the background? )
[15:57:02] <Guus> ralphm I have no clue what material choice would make for a desirable product - I trust you fully in this 🙂
[15:57:21] <ralphm> Totally pre-sell. For Summit I'd setup a google forms doc requesting size and order based on that.
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[15:57:44] <Guus> right, let's make things concrete then.
[15:58:02] <Guus> Shall we have a summit shirt or hoodie, or nothing?
[15:58:11] <Seve/SouL> Agree on that for Summit
[15:58:27] <Seve/SouL> Super cool to have something for Summit in my opinion :)
[15:58:46] <Guus> I'd actually like the somewhat subtle XMPP logo on a jacket of sorts, or hoodie-with-zipper
[15:59:05] <Zash> Are there any Serious Bussines Shirts?
[15:59:46] <Zash> Something something XMPP is serious bussiness, just look at my suit and tie something
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[16:01:55] <ralphm> Guus: like a hoodless jacket? I can see that
[16:03:32] <Guus> Yeah, something like https://www.amazon.com/sandbank-Lightweight-Softshell-Flight-Bomber/dp/B076C5YMQJ/ref=lp_2528780011_1_6?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1547136164&sr=1-6&nodeID=2528780011&psd=1 perhaps
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[16:04:01] <Guus> or something comparable
[16:04:07] <Guus> shoot, I'm 5 minutes late
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[16:04:41] <Guus> for FOSDEM, I'd opt to sell both hoodies and shirts again, but I fail to find the time to arrange for them, I'm afraid.
[16:05:27] <Seve/SouL> I made the mistake of not working on this since last February
[16:05:35] <Guus> I'm out / on mobile
[16:05:36] <Guus> tttyl
[16:05:51] <Guus> it's on everyone in SCAM, Seve, not just one person
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[16:07:00] <ralphm> Yeah, I've been looking around at drukwerkdeal.nl for this.
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[19:12:23] <jjrh> did XFS not register for a stand? https://fosdem.org/2019/stands/
[19:24:34] <pep.> jjrh, "The Realtime lounge" points to xmpp.org
[19:24:49] <pep.> But that'd be great to have it more specific :/
[19:25:16] <jjrh> ahh I did a search and was like "oh did someone screw up?"
[19:26:08] <jjrh> Realtime Lounge is kinda weird since just about everything else is under it's project/org name.
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