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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[13:09:53] <Jehan> Hi.
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[13:32:18] <Alex> hi @all
[13:32:25] <Alex> room is crowded today
[13:33:00] <Tobias> did we hit the maximum occupancy already? shall i leave? ;)
[13:33:14] <Neustradamus> hi all
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[13:45:05] <zooldk@gmail.com> Toumas is too exited.. ;-)
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[13:45:39] <koski> ?
[13:45:56] <zooldk@gmail.com> you keep logging in and out.. ;-)
[13:46:08] <koski> yes, my psi got crazy... sorry for the noise
[13:46:18] <zooldk@gmail.com> NP!
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[14:07:16] <Alex> ok, lets start the meeting
[14:07:22] *Alex bangs the gavel
[14:07:47] <Alex> here is our agenda for today:
http://xmpp.org/xsf/members/meetings/2010-05-06.shtml
[14:08:05] <Alex> 1) Call for Quorum
[14:08:16] <Alex> as you can see 41 members voted via proxy
[14:08:33] <Alex> we have 62 members, so we have a quorum on this vote
[14:08:46] <Alex> 2) Items Subject to a Vote
[14:09:06] <Alex> new and returning members, you can see all applicants here:
http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_April_2010
[14:09:24] <Alex> 3) Opportunity for XSF Members to Vote in the Meeting
[14:09:41] <Alex> does anybody want to vote in the meeting?
[14:09:57] <Kev> Not I.
[14:09:59] <Tobias> if we can vote twice: yeah :)
[14:10:07] <zooldk@gmail.com> ney
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[14:10:38] <Alex> ok, then I prepare the results
[14:10:40] <Alex> hold on
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[14:13:41] <Alex> 4) Announcement of Voting Results
[14:13:54] <Alex> if you reload the webpage you can see the results
[14:14:01] <Alex> http://xmpp.org/xsf/members/meetings/2010-05-06.shtml
[14:14:13] <Alex> all new and returning members ae accepted
[14:14:27] <Alex> congrats to all new members
[14:14:36] <zooldk@gmail.com> *KLAP* *KLAP*
[14:14:45] <Alex> 5) Any Other Business?
[14:14:51] <Jehan> So is there some alcohol now?
[14:15:05] <Jehan> Like a party after the vote for welcoming new members?
[14:15:06] <zooldk@gmail.com> cheers!..
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[14:15:26] <Alex> I have a beer next to me ;-) so scheers
[14:15:35] <Neustradamus> congrats !
[14:15:54] <Jehan> That's what is missing in XMPP: a XEP to send liquids through the network.
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[14:17:04] <Alex> 6) Formal Adjournment
[14:17:13] <Alex> I motion that we adjourn
[14:17:36] <zooldk@gmail.com> Jehan: If you publish a beer, I'd like to subscribe!'
[14:17:58] <Steven Parkes> somebody has to second? i second
[14:18:04] <Alex> yes
[14:18:07] <Alex> ok
[14:18:12] <Jehan> Yeah I would prefer to publish a whisky as for I zooldk@gmail.com.
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[14:18:18] <Kev> Thanks Alex.
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[14:18:25] <Steven Parkes> thanks alex
[14:18:27] <zooldk@gmail.com> Jerhan: merci!
[14:18:37] <zooldk@gmail.com> thanks Alex
[14:18:52] <zooldk@gmail.com> great work.. and welcome to all the new members! :-)
[14:18:58] <Alex> I have another meeting in some minutes, so I will add all new members tomorrow
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[14:27:35] <Jehan> No party then. Very disappointing meeting.
[14:28:57] <stpeter> hmph, I missed all the fun
[14:29:04] *stpeter waves to Jehan
[14:29:05] <Kev> Nevermind :)
[14:29:33] <stpeter> ok, about this review of the file transfer XEPs, it looks like I'll need to start individually poking members of the technical review team...
[14:29:48] <Jehan> Hi stpeter. Yeah, there was no fun, don't worry.
[14:30:05] <Kev> stpeter: yes, I have no time to look at that outside what I need to do for Council atm.
[14:30:28] <stpeter> while at lunch I wrote up a to-do list with 30+ items on it -- I have a lot to do :)
[14:30:35] <Kev> Sorry.
[14:30:35] <stpeter> Kev: understood
[14:30:42] <Kev> I have exactly the same time as everyone else.
[14:30:48] <Kev> I just have excess things to do in it.
[14:30:49] <stpeter> hey, I got myself into this IESG thing :P
[14:30:53] <stpeter> Kev: yeah yeah yeah :)
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[14:34:25] <Kev> I really want to get this client released ;)
[14:35:18] <Jehan> Ok anyway here day is beginning.
[14:35:31] <Jehan> So I guess I should sleep a little.
[14:35:44] <Tobias> Kev: got all the bugs fixed that prevent it from being usable on a day-to-day basis? :)
[14:36:02] <Jehan> So goodbye all!
[14:36:08] <Kev> gn Jehan
[14:36:15] <stpeter> bye Jehan
[14:36:16] <Kev> Tobias: oh, it is usable day to day, I do so already ;)
[14:36:36] <Tobias> Kev: you masochist ;)
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[14:38:33] <stpeter> erk, my inbox is creeping back up into the middle ages :(
[14:38:46] <stpeter> we're past the Norman Conquest!
[14:38:55] <Kev> Ouch.
[14:38:58] <stpeter> :)
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[14:45:45] <Neustradamus> stpeter: I have a little question, can you update http://xmpp.org/xsf/members/memberlist.shtml ?
[14:46:43] <stpeter> I can, but Alex will
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[14:47:04] <Neustradamus> Astro: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Stephan_Maka_January_2010 is not in http://xmpp.org/xsf/members/memberlist.shtml
here : http://xmpp.org/xsf/members/meetings/2010-02-17.shtml
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[14:49:27] <Neustradamus> it is strange, Astro could not vote I think
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[15:47:48] <Dave> For new folks, where is good to hang - mailing lists? chat rooms? which ones?
[15:49:45] <Kev> jdev@, standards@ for the mailing lists, jdev@conference.jabber.org for the chat rooms
[15:52:44] <Dave> Does XSF work with other organizations? I was chair of oBIX XML technical committee at OASIS and they were interested in doing a spec for using XMPP as a transport for oBIX.
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[16:23:22] <stpeter> Dave: yes we do
[16:23:49] <stpeter> Dave: I've worked with OASIS, Liberty Alliance, W3C, and of course IETF
[16:26:06] <stpeter> yay, I'm almost finished with my "editor's review" of draft-ietf-xmpp-3920bis -- only the security considerations still to complete
[16:27:39] <Dave> Great. The oBIX folks will likely ask me to help them craft and review a proposal
[16:28:28] <stpeter> Dave: I'm in fact an OASIS member now
[16:28:49] <stpeter> I'm involved (if can call it that) with the XDI and ICOM TCs
[16:29:00] <stpeter> +you
[16:29:08] <Dave> Cool - I am not because my membership was through my old company
[16:29:28] <stpeter> yeah
[16:29:38] <stpeter> I wasn't a member until Jabber Inc. was acquired by Cisco
[16:29:59] <stpeter> aha, interesting
[16:30:18] <Dave> I was mostly involved with oBIX committee and the new OASIS Blue section
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[16:30:23] <stpeter> I know some folks who are planning to submit a XEP about oBIX-related stuff
[16:30:40] <stpeter> basically smartgrid stuff over XMPP
[16:30:43] <stpeter> I need to poke them again
[16:30:49] <stpeter> too much to do :)
[16:32:25] <Dave> I've worked on smartgrid from a few different angles - formerly worked at Trane Commercial Systems doing building automation and integration of the automation systems
[16:32:39] <Dave> That's how I got into XMPP
[16:32:48] <stpeter> excellent
[16:33:17] <stpeter> the guys I spoke with are at EnerNOC
[16:35:05] <Dave> It will be interesting to see who can figure out a way to actually do something useful in the space - lots of experimentation going on.
[16:35:37] <stpeter> yeah
[16:35:43] <stpeter> and lots of money sloshing around
[16:36:40] <Dave> For sure - keeping a lot of folks in business at the moment
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[16:38:13] <Dave> Is there a good way to catch up on what's in-process for new xep proposals - I assume there's a list somewhere?
[16:38:48] <stpeter> those in-process documents about smartgrid stuff aren't published anywhere yet -- I had promises of submittals but nothing yet
[16:38:59] <stpeter> in general, the standards@xmpp.org list is where those things are announced
[16:40:45] <Dave> Yes, I just subscribed to that and see a few things going by. Are there others for which there is no traffic right now? Hard to tell what's NOT there.
[16:41:33] <stpeter> we have plenty of lists, but that one is probably the most active
[16:41:37] <stpeter> things come and go :)
[16:41:52] <stpeter> we have little lulls sometimes and then boom
[16:43:38] <Dave> OK - thanks for your help. I'm heading off to dinner now.
[16:44:01] <stpeter> good idea
[16:44:12] <stpeter> I'm going to wander off, myself :)
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