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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[17:08:23] <Neustradamus> hi all
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[17:10:16] <stpeter> hi
[17:11:54] <stpeter> Neustradamus: yes, it seems that changes that I make to Table 34 in WordPress don't show up at http://xmpp.org/resources/public-services/ -- it must be a problem with permissions
[17:12:15] <Neustradamus> ok!
[17:12:38] <Neustradamus> have you seen my ticket?
[17:12:55] <stpeter> no
[17:12:59] <stpeter> but I saw your IM
[17:13:12] <stpeter> once again I have fallen behind on email
[17:14:55] <Neustradamus> stpeter: You have a lot of emails :D
[17:15:30] <stpeter> yes I do
[17:15:42] <stpeter> 1433 in my inbox right now
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[17:16:04] <stpeter> I didn't process any email messages over the weekend
[17:16:28] <stpeter> Monday was a holiday and I didn't work on Friday, so that is 4 days of messages
[17:16:51] <Neustradamus> ah ah :)
[17:17:06] <Neustradamus> I think it is easy to close several tickets like http://tracker.xmpp.org/browse/ITEAM-15 for example
[17:17:40] <stpeter> sure
[17:17:55] <stpeter> but I need to focus on HYBI WG tasks right now
[17:18:06] <stpeter> the Websocket spec received a lot of feedback and discussion over the weekend :)
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[17:22:43] <Neustradamus> ok ok
[17:22:43] <Neustradamus> ok !
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[17:24:46] <Neustradamus> about the CommTeam, it will be possible to see today?
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[17:30:05] <Neustradamus> stpeter: why http://jabber.org/protocol/ is now http://xmpp.org/protocols/ ? and not http://xmpp.org/protocol/ ?
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[17:32:14] <Neustradamus> Have you planned to update all XEPs with the good "link" ? example XEP-0045:
http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#request -> http://xmpp.org/protocols/muc/#request or http://xmpp.org/protocol/muc/#request ?
[17:32:58] <Kev> If you're asking about changing the namespaces inside XEPs, no, that's not likely to happen.
[17:33:22] <Kev> Well, not until there's an incompatible schema change, and it's unlikely one of those would get through for something like e.g. MUC.
[17:33:32] <Kev> (Which is Draft)
[17:33:33] <Neustradamus> have you look http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#request ?
[17:34:07] <Zash> and aren't we doing urn:xmpp:... nowdays
[17:34:18] <Kev> Zash: Yes, for all new namespaces.
[17:34:23] <Neustradamus> http://xmpp.org/protocols/muc/#request works...
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[17:35:56] <Kev> If you're saying that the namespace URIs aren't pointing to a valid HTTP resource, that's ok, they don't need to.
[17:36:16] <Kev> Indeed, as Zash says, we're using URNs instead of HTTP resource URIs these days anyway.
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[17:37:32] <Neustradamus> ok
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[19:04:03] <Alex> hi guys
[19:04:17] <Kev> Evening Alex.
[19:05:02] <Neustradamus> hi Alex
[19:05:06] <Alex> lets start in 3 minutes
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[19:07:48] <Alex> ok, lets start
[19:07:58] *Alex bangs the gavel
[19:08:19] <Alex> here is our agenda for today:
http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2011-09-06/
[19:08:19] <Florian> hehey! just on time :D
[19:08:38] <Alex> 1) Call for Quorum
[19:09:00] <Alex> as you can see 31 members voted via proxy or email
[19:09:17] <Alex> we have 62 members, so we have a quorum already
[19:09:42] <Alex> 2) Items Subject to a Vote
[19:10:23] <Alex> New and Returning members, you can see the applicants here:
http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q3/2011
[19:10:45] <Alex> ups there is a copy and paste error in the Agenda, there are no bylaw changes, I'll fix this later
[19:11:13] <Alex> fixed, you can reload the page
[19:11:24] <Alex> I love our new Wodpress page ;-)
[19:11:31] <Florian> hehe
[19:11:45] <Alex> 3) Opportunity for XSF Members to Vote in the Meeting
[19:11:54] <Florian> Me, me, me :D
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[19:12:46] <Alex> ok, counting Florians vote, anybody else?
[19:13:12] <stpeter> oh
[19:13:23] <stpeter> Alex: did you receive votes from Waqas?
[19:13:37] <Alex> yes, counted his votes
[19:13:41] <stpeter> ok good
[19:13:49] <stpeter> he contacted me via IM just in case :)
[19:15:11] <Alex> ok, preparing the results page then
[19:15:40] <stpeter> super
[19:15:43] *bear loves quorums
[19:16:44] <Kev> Quora?
[19:17:21] <Alex> ok
[19:17:27] <stpeter> Kev: yeah yeah yeah
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[19:17:33] <Alex> 4) Announcement of Voting Results
[19:17:54] <Alex> when you reload teh page you should be able to se ethe results
[19:17:56] <Alex> http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2011-09-06/
[19:18:10] <Alex> all new and returning members are accepted
[19:19:02] <Alex> 5) Any Other Business?
[19:19:31] <stpeter> I suppose we need to figure out the schedule for Board and Council elections, and start recruiting people to serve in those roles
[19:19:52] <Florian> :)
[19:20:02] <Tobias> 3 reappliers?
[19:20:04] <Alex> ya, I will create the application page on teh Wiki ASAP
[19:20:20] <stpeter> Alex: did we already create it?
[19:20:22] *stpeter checks
[19:20:55] <stpeter> ah, I don't think we did
[19:21:51] <stpeter> I notice that Neustradamus has been hard at work on the wiki :)
[19:21:55] <Alex> Tobias: fixed, reload teh page
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[19:22:12] <Tobias> Alex, thx :)
[19:22:12] <Neustradamus> stpeter: :)
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[19:22:33] <stpeter> interesting: Fritzy didn't reapply....
[19:22:38] <Neustradamus> :/
[19:23:04] <bear> yea, a few folks i'm surprised to find who didn't reapply
[19:23:05] <Alex> also Nicoloas
[19:23:30] <stpeter> yeah, but Fritzy is a Council member -- we need to clarify some of the rules about that....
[19:23:45] <Neustradamus> stpeter: about teams, we can update the website...
[19:23:52] *stpeter writes it on his whiteboard so he remembers
[19:24:04] <MiGri> maybe they didn't remember to reapply. that happens to me once, too ;)
[19:24:35] <stpeter> MiGri: true
[19:24:37] <Alex> I remind everybody per email normally before the application period ends
[19:24:47] <stpeter> Neustradamus: yes we should update the website about that
[19:24:53] <Alex> but its also holiday time right now
[19:24:58] <stpeter> yeah
[19:25:03] <stpeter> but no holidays in America :P
[19:25:10] <stpeter> so no excuse for Fritzy
[19:25:16] <Alex> ;-)
[19:26:13] <stpeter> Neustradamus: I'm sending a short email about the teams to the members@ list
[19:26:32] <Alex> ok, anything else?
[19:26:36] <Kev> Not here.
[19:26:55] <Alex> 6) Formal Adjournment
[19:26:58] <bear> should I add to the board agenda to discuss board and council election details?
[19:26:59] <Kev> Seconded.
[19:27:02] <Alex> I motion that we adjourn
[19:27:13] *Alex bangs the gavel
[19:27:20] <bear> thanks Alex!
[19:27:23] <Kev> Thanks Alex.
[19:27:24] <Alex> thanks guys
[19:27:25] <stpeter> bear, yes I think so
[19:27:27] <MiGri> tnx
[19:27:29] <stpeter> yes, thanks to Alex!
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[19:32:58] <stpeter> message sent
[19:33:08] <stpeter> back to websocket madness for a little while longer...
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[19:45:35] <Neustradamus> stpeter: good about the email!
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