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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[15:47:15] <bear> board meeting notes: http://typewith.me/WFqmxbixTw
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[15:50:58] <stpeter> don't we have something.dot/xsf ?
[15:51:37] <stpeter> yeah http://typewith.me/xsf
[15:51:51] <stpeter> easier to remember :)
[15:55:03] <bear> oh? do we?
[15:55:31] <bear> *love* it!
[15:55:36] <stpeter> :)
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[15:57:12] <Florian> yhello
[15:57:37] <stpeter> heh
[15:57:46] <stpeter> is "yhello" pronounced differently?
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[16:00:35] <Florian> hmm ... just trying to find a soundbite ...
[16:00:45] <Florian> Homer Simpson -> Picking up the phone
[16:00:46] <Florian> :)
[16:01:10] <stpeter> ah, I've never heard that
[16:01:32] <stpeter> but I've heard people pronounce the word differently
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[16:03:32] <stpeter> let's see, Will sent his regrets, right?
[16:03:40] <bear> yes
[16:04:17] <stpeter> BTW I'm recruiting people to stand for election at http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Board_and_Council_Elections_2011
[16:04:27] <bear> cool
[16:04:51] <Florian> great
[16:05:07] <Florian> will add my name soon :)
[16:05:38] <bear> cool
[16:06:06] <bear> we need one more for quorum ?
[16:06:11] <stpeter> yes
[16:06:22] <Florian> jack / nyco?
[16:06:54] <stpeter> I just pinged Jack
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[16:07:20] <metajack@gmail.com> hello all
[16:07:24] <stpeter> I don't seem to have NĂ¿co in the roster for this account
[16:07:27] <stpeter> hi Jack!
[16:08:20] <bear> Nyco is offline for me also
[16:08:40] <stpeter> ok
[16:08:53] <Florian> hi jack :)
[16:09:10] <Florian> right, should we get started?
[16:09:31] <stpeter> yep
[16:09:32] <bear> yep
[16:09:41] <bear> notes are here: http://typewith.me/xsf
[16:10:05] <bear> two items for the agenda: fosdem and verify
[16:10:12] <bear> anything to add?
[16:10:17] <stpeter> I don't think so
[16:10:49] <Florian> nope
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[16:11:07] <bear> k, fosdem - so we got the notice to reserve a room
[16:11:14] <stpeter> right
[16:11:22] <bear> we should reserve early so we can make sure to get a nice sized room
[16:11:28] <stpeter> in the Council meeting earlier, Ralph said he would take care of that
[16:11:33] <bear> cool
[16:11:34] <Florian> ok, cool
[16:11:37] <bear> and table ?
[16:11:39] <Florian> we also need a booth this year :D
[16:11:55] <stpeter> bear: I think you reserve a room and you are assigned whatever the FOSDEM people assign to you, but I'm not 100% sure
[16:12:01] <stpeter> Florian: right
[16:12:16] <stpeter> the notice about reserving a stand has not been issued yet
[16:12:20] <bear> k
[16:12:51] <stpeter> I'll forward it to the members@ list when it comes out
[16:12:54] <bear> we should respond "yes" then when the booth notice comes
[16:13:07] <stpeter> (I'm starting to use the members@ list instead of the various team lists...)
[16:13:20] <bear> yea, that just feels "right"
[16:13:24] <Florian> :)
[16:13:26] <bear> keeps all of the comm centralized
[16:13:30] <stpeter> yes
[16:13:58] <bear> is it too early to start agitating for tshirt ideas?
[16:14:07] <Kev> No.
[16:14:12] <bear> :)
[16:14:22] <stpeter> heh
[16:14:38] <bear> do we have someone who normally takes point on that?
[16:14:43] <stpeter> shall we agitate for burning those gray shirts so Florian doesn't need to find storage space for them?
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[16:14:49] <bear> +1
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[16:15:15] <metajack@gmail.com> you might be able to convince daniel to do an updated design for a different color shirt
[16:15:28] <metajack@gmail.com> since people seemed to like the design but not the shirt color
[16:15:33] <stpeter> true
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[16:15:54] <bear> can you email him that question?
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[16:16:34] <metajack@gmail.com> will do right now
[16:16:47] <bear> thanks
[16:16:48] <Florian> let's go for a black t-shirt
[16:16:48] <stpeter> thanks, Jack
[16:16:51] <Florian> or some cool colour
[16:16:55] <Florian> NOT grey
[16:17:20] <stpeter> um yeah
[16:18:02] <Florian> and should we add the year?
[16:18:07] <metajack@gmail.com> i'm not sure you could call that color gray :)
[16:18:17] <Florian> lol
[16:18:29] <stpeter> heh
[16:18:40] <bear> adding the year makes sense IMO
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[16:19:04] <stpeter> but then we can't sell the remainders
[16:19:13] <Florian> true
[16:19:26] <bear> yea, true
[16:19:28] <Florian> unless we do a second event in the US this year
[16:19:47] <bear> we probably should wait for that to *happen* before planning on selling shirts ;)
[16:19:48] <Florian> unless we do a second event in the US next year
[16:19:51] <stpeter> where by "this year" you mean next year :)
[16:20:06] <Florian> :)
[16:20:08] <Florian> right
[16:20:39] <stpeter> ok, so that's FOSDEM?
[16:20:49] <Florian> I think so
[16:20:51] <bear> yep
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[16:21:30] <bear> XSF Verify next?
[16:21:40] <Florian> +2
[16:21:43] <Florian> +1
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[16:21:56] <stpeter> yes, which is somewhat related to FOSDEM if we're going to have a real hackfest/testfest
[16:22:27] <bear> true - we won't know that until later - when we have a test suite to hack on
[16:22:43] <stpeter> http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Verify has some more details
[16:22:49] <bear> I would not want to show up with nothing and say "ok, let's build it" - that's a recipe for grump
[16:23:00] <stpeter> bear: for sure!
[16:23:40] <bear> I love the details you added to the verify wiki page
[16:23:46] <Florian> :)
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[16:24:17] <Florian> I think the second phase is great for FOSDEM
[16:24:30] <Florian> always a lot of discussions about SASL etc.
[16:24:33] <bear> is there something we need to cover today - other than start beating-the-bushes for folks to help?
[16:24:46] <metajack@gmail.com> i think if you have some basic docs and a few tests written before fosdem, people will jump in and go from there
[16:25:06] <bear> i've got some basic code in python, starting to work on the "oh hey, I can connect to the server" type tests
[16:25:35] <stpeter> bear: shall we set up a source code repository?
[16:25:46] <bear> that was one of my questions for today
[16:26:00] <Florian> would be a cool thing to have
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[16:26:07] <stpeter> right, source control FTW
[16:26:32] <stpeter> we have git on athena (for XEPs etc.)
[16:26:33] <bear> xsf has a git repo?
[16:26:43] <stpeter> I might even remember how to set up a new repository :)
[16:26:46] <bear> :)
[16:26:49] <stpeter> if not, we ask Kev for help
[16:27:05] <bear> would it be easier to use github?
[16:27:05] <Kev> Hmm?
[16:27:13] <Kev> Oh, Gitosis. I can set that up.
[16:27:18] <stpeter> right
[16:27:25] <stpeter> bear: we mirror to github
[16:27:33] <bear> cool
[16:27:44] <stpeter> but IMHO it's better to have the primary repo on xmpp.org machines (with backups, naturally)
[16:28:03] <bear> just checking - wasn't sure if the iteam was people/resource constrained
[16:28:18] <stpeter> sure
[16:28:21] <Kev> stpeter: We mirror to gitorious, I think.
[16:28:24] <stpeter> the iteam is the one team that actually does stuff
[16:28:28] <stpeter> Kev: ah, right
[16:28:33] <stpeter> six of one...
[16:28:36] <Kev> r
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[16:29:31] <bear> anything further for verify?
[16:29:44] <Florian> nope, don't think so
[16:29:54] <stpeter> nope -- git repo + beating the bushes + getting to work
[16:30:07] <bear> k
[16:30:42] <Kev> I'm busy right now, so will forget.
[16:30:47] <bear> shall we bang the gavel and call this meeting done?
[16:30:49] <Kev> Can someone please drop me a mail about setting up repos.
[16:31:00] <Kev> What repos, who should have access, and I'll get it done.
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[16:31:09] <stpeter> thanks, Kev
[16:31:17] <Florian> awesome, thx Kev
[16:31:22] <stpeter> bear, can you ping Kev about that?
[16:31:24] <bear> verify repo, me, stpeter, florian for initial access?
[16:31:25] <bear> yes
[16:31:35] <Florian> sounds good
[16:31:49] <stpeter> hopefully we'll be adding more folks to the access list before long :)
[16:31:53] <bear> yes
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[16:32:02] <stpeter> thanks, guys
[16:32:12] <bear> yep, thanks all
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[16:33:57] <stpeter> next meeting?
[16:34:00] <stpeter> I'll be offline next week
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[16:34:16] <stpeter> but you guys are free to meet :)
[16:34:59] <bear> next week i'll be in portland
[16:35:11] <stpeter> the minutes look fine to me now
[16:35:12] <stpeter> ok
[16:35:13] <bear> so we probably should just plan on it being a wash
[16:35:19] <stpeter> so perhaps two weeks from today
[16:35:22] <bear> +1
[16:35:25] <stpeter> wfM
[16:35:32] *stpeter creates the calendar entry
[16:35:36] <bear> thanks
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[16:40:06] <stpeter> thanks, bear
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[16:40:14] <bear> thanks for the wordsmithing
[16:40:16] <stpeter> we can discuss Verify further in the interp@ rom
[16:40:17] <stpeter> room
[16:40:26] <bear> minutes email and kev poke email sent
[16:40:31] <bear> ah - I need to join that room
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[20:41:36] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[20:43:35] <Kev> bear: I don't believe you're in the XSF's Git repo yet. Please send me a public key.
[20:46:39] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[20:51:43] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[20:56:45] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[20:57:20] *** MiGri shows as "online" and his status message is "This conversation may be monitored for quality assurance or security purposes. ;)"
[21:01:49] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[21:06:53] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[21:07:10] *** MiGri shows as "away" and his status message is "I'm not at the computer but I'll read the messages as soon as I'll be back."
[21:08:50] *** MiGri shows as "online" and his status message is "This conversation may be monitored for quality assurance or security purposes. ;)"
[21:08:51] *** MiGri shows as "xa" and his status message is "Screen detached. I'll read the messages as soon as I'll be back."
[21:11:56] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[21:16:51] *** Kooda shows as "away"
[21:17:00] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[21:21:11] *** Tobias has left the room
[21:22:04] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[21:27:07] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[21:32:11] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[21:37:13] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[21:42:17] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[21:47:21] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[21:49:55] *** dwd shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being idle more than 5 min)"
[21:51:14] *** dwd shows as "online"
[21:52:24] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[21:56:40] *** dwd shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being idle more than 5 min)"
[21:57:28] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[22:02:10] *** dwd shows as "online"
[22:02:31] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[22:07:35] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[22:10:06] *** dwd shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being idle more than 5 min)"
[22:12:37] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[22:17:40] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[22:20:06] *** dwd shows as "xa" and his status message is " (Not available as a result of being idle more than 15 min)"
[22:22:41] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[22:27:45] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[22:28:05] *** stpeter shows as "online"
[22:32:47] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[22:37:51] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[22:42:53] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[22:47:56] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[22:52:58] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[22:58:01] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[22:58:20] *** dwd shows as "online"
[23:03:06] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[23:07:32] *** dwd shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being idle more than 5 min)"
[23:08:11] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[23:13:16] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[23:17:32] *** dwd shows as "xa" and his status message is " (Not available as a result of being idle more than 15 min)"
[23:18:20] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[23:23:23] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[23:28:26] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[23:33:29] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[23:38:33] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[23:41:51] *** stpeter shows as "away" and his status message is "wandered off..."
[23:43:36] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[23:48:40] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[23:53:44] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"
[23:57:33] *** stpeter shows as "online"
[23:58:48] *** Lance Stout shows as "online"