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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[17:33:12] <stpeter> interesting: https://grove.io/ ... IRC with a pretty face :)
[17:36:20] <dwd> "IRC is a popular communication protocol" ... with almost no authentication whatsoever.
[17:37:49] <stpeter> dwd: maybe that's why it is so popular!
[17:38:22] <dwd> stpeter, According to come documents I've been reading, this is indeed a key factor.
[17:41:21] *stpeter processes the XEP Editor actions from yesterday's Council meeting before he forgets
[17:41:41] <Kev> Thanks.
[17:42:03] <stpeter> I'm losing track of the things I need to finish before getting on a plane to Taipei in the morning
[17:43:18] <dwd> stpeter, "packing".
[17:43:38] <stpeter> yeah, I'll do that tonight
[17:44:04] <stpeter> I'm talking about poking WG chairs, finishing some presentation slides, updating XEPs, etc.
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[18:10:35] <Kev> Thanks Peter.
[18:16:04] <stpeter> hmm, XEP-0258 is keeping the XMPP Registrar busy for a little while here, will publish that one soon enough :)
[18:16:40] <Kev> Heh. Yes, I hadn't realised that one was missing from the push.
[18:17:18] <stpeter> schemas, namespaces, etc. -- I like to make sure everything is in place before I publish the updated spec
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[18:32:29] *stpeter removes the pagination from http://xmpp.org/resources/schemas/ while he's at it
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[18:47:40] <stpeter> done
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[18:52:02] <stpeter> hmm but http://xmpp.org/xmpp-protocols/protocol-namespaces/ is out of date
[18:52:06] <stpeter> something to do over lunch :)
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[19:11:17] <stpeter> OK, http://xmpp.org/xmpp-protocols/protocol-namespaces/ updated as well ... although I don't know who uses those pages :)
[19:17:01] <stpeter> bbiaf
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[19:37:53] <stpeter> brb
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[19:51:22] <bear> meeting in 10 minutes?
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[19:52:56] <stpeter> yes
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[19:56:25] *stpeter wanders off to a meeting room where he will be multitasking :)
[19:58:12] <bear> as will I :/
[19:59:00] <Alex> hi @all
[19:59:06] <stpeter> hi Alex!
[19:59:10] <Kev> Hi Alex.
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[20:02:34] <Alex> ok guys, lets start our meeting
[20:02:41] *Alex bangs the gavel
[20:03:03] <Alex> you can see our agenda here:
http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2011-11-10/
[20:03:29] <Alex> 1) Call for Quorum
[20:03:48] <Alex> as you can see 36 members voted via proxy, so we have a quorum
[20:04:01] <Alex> we have 56 members
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[20:04:26] <Alex> 64% turnout which is not bad ;-)
[20:04:35] <stpeter> :)
[20:04:43] <stpeter> better than American elections!
[20:04:54] <Alex> 2) Items Subject to a Vote
[20:05:00] <Alex> Board and Council
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[20:05:20] <Alex> you can see all applicants here:
http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Board_and_Council_Elections_2011
[20:05:34] <Alex> 3) Opportunity for XSF members to Vote in the Meeting
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[20:06:09] <Alex> anybody here who has not voted yet and wants to vote in the meeting?
[20:06:20] <Kev> Not here.
[20:06:35] <dwd> Nor me.
[20:06:56] <Alex> ok, then I start working on the results
[20:07:44] <dwd> Alex, Might want to correct Kev's surname while you're there. :-)
[20:08:06] <Kev> Oh, yes. That'd be nice :)
[20:08:12] <stpeter> whatever :P
[20:08:15] <Kev> I hadn't scrolled down yet.
[20:09:15] <Alex> ok, I will
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[20:12:19] <Alex> ok
[20:12:28] <Alex> 4) Announcement of Voting Results
[20:12:46] <Alex> when you reload the page at:
http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2011-11-10/
you see the results
[20:13:25] <Alex> all 5 board applcants were accepted
[20:13:28] <dwd> Florian gets top votes - they know who gets them fed... :-)
[20:14:25] <Alex> top 5 for council are:
Matthew Wild 88,89
Kevin Smith 86,11
Matthew Miller 83,33
Tobias Markmann 69,44
Ralph Meijer 63,89
[20:14:25] <stpeter> some close voting for Council :)
[20:14:58] <Alex> yes
[20:15:01] <dwd> Indeed.
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[20:15:50] <Alex> 5) Any Other Business?
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[20:16:47] <stpeter> XMPP Summit? or shall we bring that up at the first Board meeting?
[20:17:22] <dwd> If there's anything to say here. But we can call for an open meeting on that later, too.
[20:18:25] <stpeter> yeah
[20:18:37] <stpeter> I'm a bit distracted with IETF 82 prep this week
[20:18:57] <stpeter> but I'll post to the members@ list about a meeting time -- week of November 21 would work for me
[20:19:20] <bear> summit prep should be fairly streamlined - we have carryover of folks to help with the new folks
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[20:20:21] <Alex> 6) Formal Adjournment
[20:20:27] <Kev> Seconded.
[20:20:28] <Alex> I motion that we adjourn
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[20:20:41] <dwd> Alex, Thanks.
[20:20:42] <Kev> Thanks Alex.
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[20:21:09] <stpeter> Danke Schön! :)
[20:21:39] <Alex> no problem
[20:23:16] <Alex> we can start voting on membership now ;-)
[20:23:34] <stpeter> sigh
[20:23:36] <stpeter> yeah
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[20:23:55] <stpeter> I still would like to get rid of all the voting, but that's a bigger issue
[20:24:10] <Florian> sorry I'm late
[20:24:21] <stpeter> Florian: you are the new king!
[20:24:37] <Florian> heh, so I heard
[20:24:38] <Tobias> and get a shiny new wooden crown
[20:24:41] <Florian> haha
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[20:27:04] <Alex> nearly the same council, only Fritzy replaced by Tobias
[20:27:24] <stpeter> yeah, I voted against some of those old-timers :P
[20:29:00] *stpeter apologizes for being distracted at the moment
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[20:30:56] <stpeter> Alex: I can update the list membership for the board@ and council@ lists
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[20:31:42] <Alex> okay, I don't think that I have permissions for that. You are the chief for all teh lists ,-)
[20:32:02] <stpeter> Alex: I am, but volunteers are welcome to help with list administration :)
[20:33:35] <Alex> when you send me the passwords I can do that, they change only once a year
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[20:34:28] <stpeter> I can send you the passwords for the xmpp lists (of course we also have jabber.org lists on the same machine)
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[20:34:46] <stpeter> list administration doesn't take much of my time, so it's easy enough for me
[20:34:56] <Florian> ah, just found an error on the website
[20:35:04] <stpeter> Florian: impossible!
[20:35:05] <Florian> the link is wrong for the minutes
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[20:35:14] <Florian> let me see if I can log in :)
[20:35:15] <Alex> ok, lemme fix
[20:35:50] <Florian> I'm logged in ... I can fix it if you want
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[20:35:56] <Alex> ok
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[20:36:41] <Florian> done
[20:36:51] <Alex> thanks
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[20:41:38] <stpeter> ok, will post to members@ about a summit chat
[20:43:25] <Florian> sounds good :)
[20:43:28] <stpeter> is this a good time of day?
[20:43:34] <stpeter> or do we want something earlier?
[20:43:38] <Florian> for me normally not on a Thursday
[20:43:41] <Florian> any other day, yes
[20:44:12] <stpeter> it would probably be Tuesday or Wednesday -- Thursday is a holiday in America (at least for November 24)
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[20:46:29] <stpeter> message sent to members@
[20:46:52] <stpeter> I might even have time to work on the validation project after I get back from Taipei :)
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[20:48:36] <bear> lance and I talked while we were at krtconf - good basic talk about how to start on the testing framework
[20:48:49] <stpeter> cool :)
[20:49:38] <bear> hmm, need to email the board list to have first meeting scheduled
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[20:50:47] <dwd> bear, Are we all subscribed already?
[20:51:14] <stpeter> dwd: I need to add people
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[21:10:00] <dwd> stpeter, Can you sort me out with a WordPress account, please? (Or can you, Kev, if you've access?)
[21:10:22] <stpeter> I can, please hold
[21:10:37] <Kev> I can, but not while I'm downstairs.
[21:11:03] *stpeter will be logging off soon and likely not back online until after arriving in Taipei
[21:11:34] <dwd> stpeter, No rush, I can wait until tomorrow when Kev can do it.
[21:12:35] <stpeter> almost done
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[21:13:26] <bear> hmm, 4 folks didn't vote for me - I need to do better :(
[21:13:56] <stpeter> heh
[21:14:06] <stpeter> dwd: credentials sent via IM
[21:14:31] <dwd> bear, You did better than me - I hardly annoyed anyone, it seems.
[21:15:33] <bear> oh, in that case I consider that to be a major curmudgeon win
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