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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[15:18:24] <sonny> hi guys, can someone open me an account on the wiki I'd like to add an entry on http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/FOSDEM_2012_Demos
[15:22:24] <sonny> oh hi bear :-)
[15:23:47] <sonny> bear, crazy to see how much people are actually involved in both XMPP and Mozilla projects/communities
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[16:20:57] <stpeter> howdy
[16:21:15] <sonny> stpeter, hello
[16:21:28] <stpeter> sonny, I can create a wiki account for you
[16:21:28] <sonny> stpeter, "16:17:24 sonny> hi guys, can someone open me an account on the wiki I'd like to add an entry on http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/FOSDEM_2012_Demos "
[16:21:33] <sonny> stpeter, neat :-)
[16:21:37] <stpeter> sonny: yep, I got the room history :)
[16:21:49] <stpeter> is your email address the same as your JID?
[16:21:54] <sonny> stpeter, nope
[16:22:01] <stpeter> ok, PM it to me
[16:22:05] <stpeter> (this room is logged)
[16:22:22] <sonny> stpeter, thanks!
[16:22:42] <ashleyroach@jabber.org> Test
[16:23:05] <stpeter> sonny: ok, check your email
[16:23:19] <stpeter> sonny: you should have the account info in a message from xmpp.org
[16:23:25] <sonny> http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Index.php
[16:23:26] <sonny> stpeter, yes
[16:26:10] <stpeter> ashleyroach@jabber.org: test successful :)
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[16:26:31] <ashleyroach@jabber.org> Ah cool. On my mobile
[16:27:27] <stpeter> yay :)
[16:28:13] <stpeter> I haven't used xmpp on mobile much, somehow I get enough of IM when I am working on my laptop :)
[16:28:53] <ashleyroach@jabber.org> Handy when running late :)
[16:29:48] <ashleyroach@jabber.org> Wonder if background mode works
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[16:30:32] <dwd> I am running late, also on mobile until I'm back.
[16:31:51] <dwd> I'm also a bit rubbish in general, this time. Not sorted through the agenda items.
[16:34:56] <stpeter> I did not hear from Chris, Florian, or Mike
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[16:36:21] <admin> hey guys
[16:36:25] <stpeter> oh the admin is here :)
[16:36:32] <admin> /nick Florian
[16:36:38] <stpeter> heh
[16:36:42] <stpeter> we know who you are ;-)
[16:36:45] <admin> hmm ... that used to work in Psi :)
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[16:36:55] <stpeter> it should work
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[16:37:04] <admin> not on Swift I guess :)
[16:37:39] <psa> anyway
[16:37:41] <psa> shall we?
[16:37:44] <psa> I don't see Chris online
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[16:37:52] <psa> bear is here but perhaps not responsive
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[16:38:59] <dwd> Right, should be back at my desk in five.
[16:39:05] <psa> aha ok
[16:40:13] <bear> just running a tad llate
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[16:40:41] <psa> as is everyone today, it seems
[16:40:52] <Ashley> i think i'm here
[16:40:58] <psa> I'm running early because I'm supposed to be on vacation today so I want to be done with working :)
[16:41:14] <bear> for me it's overcast and *blech* outside
[16:41:39] <psa> heh
[16:43:22] <bear> I'm totally bummed also - found out that, yet again, work has scheduled a "must attend" meeting a couple days after FOSDEM
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[16:43:33] <psa> :(
[16:43:37] <admin> :(
[16:43:44] <bear> so I won't be going - makes the 3rd year in a row
[16:44:08] <admin> that's a real shame
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[16:44:16] <bear> maybe once moz puts xmpp in the browser I will get to go
[16:44:53] <psa> heh
[16:44:54] <Ashley> perhaps you can make portland, bear?
[16:44:59] <bear> but I did get a reply from the moz person doing fosdem and he is really excited to have xmpp demos
[16:45:29] <bear> yes, oscon has just risen to the top of my conference list this year
[16:45:59] <Ashley> i *should* be able to make that one, since it doesn't involve int'l travel
[16:46:22] <Kev> I have the opposite problem.
[16:46:33] <Kev> I've yet to make it to a US summit.
[16:46:37] <admin> same
[16:46:45] <Kev> Mind, FOSDEM involves international travel too.
[16:46:55] <admin> hehe
[16:47:02] <psa> :)
[16:47:04] <Ashley> i'll have to make VP, since int'l travel requires VP approval, apparently :)
[16:47:11] <Kev> I look forward to the London Summit.
[16:47:32] <admin> :)
[16:49:07] <psa> so is everyone happily seated or standing at their favorite desks or other locations so that we can start this meeting? ;-)
[16:49:18] <admin> +1
[16:49:23] <Ashley> +1
[16:49:24] <Kev> dwd's status at least suggests that he's not.
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[16:49:28] <psa> ok
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[16:49:38] <dwd> Right, back at my desk.
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[16:50:36] <dwd> Sorry about that delay.
[16:51:02] <dwd> Ashley, BTW, I'm a VP - can I OK your travel?
[16:51:17] <Ashley> lol
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[16:51:27] *psa laughs
[16:51:31] <psa> so what's on our agenda?
[16:51:57] <dwd> Ashley, Check the small print - does it say a *Cisco* VP has to approve?
[16:52:25] <Ashley> most certainly — this place is chock full of lawyers
[16:52:37] <dwd> Well, I think our agenda is just following up on last week - so...
[16:52:49] <dwd> 1) Athena - any discussion and/or choices amongst the iteam?
[16:53:07] <Kev> None at all. You have an action on that.
[16:53:37] <Kev> (To remind me)
[16:53:40] <psa> heh
[16:53:51] <dwd> Kev, Ah, right.
[16:53:54] <psa> I rather doubt that much of anything will happen between now and the end of the year :)
[16:54:07] <Kev> Ideally reminding me when I'm back off holiday :)
[16:54:40] <psa> Kev: I can ping the iteam list about the topic so that we at least have something in the inbox about it
[16:55:00] <Kev> Feel free. I'm avoiding doing anything that looks like work until the new year.
[16:55:03] <psa> good!
[16:55:16] *psa shall be avoiding it after this meeting :)
[16:55:44] <dwd> OK. So 2) (TEams and SIGs) - it occurs to me we need to announce something on the disbanded comms and tech-review MLs.
[16:56:05] *bear nods
[16:56:19] <psa> rightio
[16:56:21] <bear> best to firmly remove any assumptions/expectations folks may still have
[16:56:46] <psa> again, something to do on, say, January3?
[16:56:47] <dwd> I never actually joined either of those - can someone else pen those announcements?
[16:57:00] <dwd> psa, It's waited a week, it can wait longer.
[16:57:09] <psa> I can send those messages
[16:57:12] *psa updates his calendar
[16:57:52] <dwd> And we generally agreed on a FOSDEM team and an Interop SIG, and I don't think we've done much about those either.
[16:58:03] <admin> nope
[16:58:15] <dwd> Have we heard anything on stands/real-time-lounges BTW?
[16:58:31] <psa> I have not
[16:58:35] <admin> not me
[16:58:44] <psa> I don't know if Ralph has pinged the FOSDEM organizers about that
[16:58:56] <dwd> The formal announcement date is the 24th, right?
[16:59:11] <admin> of Jan or Dec?
[16:59:18] <dwd> Dec.
[16:59:36] <admin> oh
[17:00:00] <dwd> So we'll know the decision soon enough.
[17:00:44] <psa> yes
[17:01:03] <dwd> So I think we move onto "next meeting" - no point having one next week, is there?
[17:01:12] <psa> nope
[17:01:23] <dwd> 4th January, then?
[17:01:29] <psa> that works for me
[17:01:34] <admin> wfm
[17:01:38] <Ashley> i'll still be on holiday, but could probably join
[17:01:47] <dwd> It works for the admin, so it must be OK for everyone.
[17:01:53] *psa laughs
[17:02:09] <psa> The Admin, that is
[17:02:24] <admin> lol
[17:02:27] <bear> :)
[17:02:35] <bear> +1 to the 4th
[17:02:39] <psa> ok
[17:02:44] <psa> I'll update the calendar
[17:02:47] <dwd> Well, we'll schedule one for then, and we can meet and chatter or have a proper meeting as appropriate.
[17:03:08] <dwd> So, motion to adjourn?
[17:03:16] <dwd> And apologies for being late again.
[17:03:34] <bear> seconded
[17:03:42] <dwd> And we're done, then.
[17:03:47] <admin> great
[17:03:55] <admin> cheers all
[17:04:09] <bear> enjoy the holiday everyone (or not, if your a curmudgeon)
[17:04:10] <Ashley> happy holidays all
[17:04:11] <dwd> On an unimportant note, I will have a projector by FOSDEM; but it's only a little one.
[17:04:13] <psa> have a Cool Yule
[17:04:31] <psa> calendar updated
[17:04:39] <dwd> And yes, happy Christmas, to one and all, etc.
[17:04:59] <psa> I've also pinged the iteam list, but I wouldn't expect action until January
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[17:05:24] <psa> oh yay, IETF 83 registration is now open
[17:05:31] <admin> right, cools ... I'm off
[17:05:31] <psa> see you in Paris ;-)
[17:05:40] <admin> time to race to the restaurant :)
[17:05:42] <psa> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/83/
[17:05:44] <psa> admin: enjoy!
[17:05:49] <admin> thanks all and happy holidays!
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[17:06:02] <psa> indeed!
[17:07:28] <psa> hmm, my calendar for January 3 is looking quite full already :)
[17:07:41] <psa> ok, I'm going to log off here and try to ignore email and IM until then
[17:07:53] <dwd> Good plan.
[17:07:56] <dwd> Enjoy.
[17:08:05] <psa> thanks, you too!
[17:08:40] *psa reads http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0169.html to get in the holiday spirit :)
[17:11:47] <psa> hmm, XEP-0169 still has a reference to RFC 3921 -- that needs to be fixed :)
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[17:15:59] <psa> fixed
[17:16:10] <psa> with that, I bid you goodbye :)
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[17:16:18] <dwd> See you in the new year.
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