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Neustradamus
note: Do not forget this group: http://identi.ca/group/xs and http://identi.ca/group/xmpp
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Peter Waher
Hello
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jef
helooooo
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Florian
evening all
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Zash
o/
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dwd
Evening all.
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kevin
Evening
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stpeter
howdy
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Marc
hi
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Marc
hello all, how are u all?
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stpeter
hi Marc
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kevin
stpeter: how are you today?
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Alex
hi everybody
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kevin
hi
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stpeter
kevin: actually a bit under the weather, thanks for asking
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stpeter
hi Alex!
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Florian
hi Alex
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Marc
>stpeter: hi Marc how are you???
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Alex
ok guys
- Alex bangs the gavel
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Alex
Here is our agenda for today: http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2012-01-10/
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Alex
1) Call for Quorum
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Alex
as you can see 36 members voted via proxy, so we have a quorum
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dwd
Looks like we're quorate, indeed.
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stpeter
I voted (but I didn't get around to it until a few hours ago!)
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Alex
<a, good turnout
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Marc
huh, confused :S
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Alex
2) Items Subject to a Vote
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Alex
new and returning memebrs, you can see all applications here: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q4_2011
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Alex
3) Opportunity for XSF Members to Vote in the Meeting
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Marc
can i vote?
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Alex
anybody wants to vote i nthe meeting?
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Marc
sure
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dwd
Marc, Are you a member?
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Marc
nope
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Florian
in that case, you can't :)
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Alex
when you tell me your real name
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Marc
i wanna join tho
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dwd
Marc, Only XSF Members may vote.
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Marc
my real name is Marcus :)
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Marc
okay , guess i will shut up then
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stpeter
Marcus: we will have another membership application period starting soon after this meeting is done :)
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Marc
Carry on
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Alex
I will open the new application page tomorrow, then you can apply and vote soon ;-)
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Marc
Thank you
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Alex
ok, then I prepare the results
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stpeter
super
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Zash
Drumroll?
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Alex
4) Announcement of Voting Results
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Alex
When you reload the page at: http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/xsf-member-meeting-2012-01-10/ you can see the results
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Alex
all new and returning members were accepted
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dwd
Everyone made it, then.
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Alex
yes
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Zash
\o/
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dwd
Mind you, I thought we had a particularly good crop this time around.
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Peter Waher
:)
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dwd
Zash, Welcome to the XSF. :-)
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Zash
Thanks
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dwd
Peter Waher, And you, too.
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Peter Waher
Thank you :)
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dwd
Now, guys, just remember to come to the Summit.
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stpeter
heh
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stpeter
yeah
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Alex
5) Any Other Business?
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stpeter
come to FOSDEM and the XMPP Summit!
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dwd
And do talks, and demos, and bring your wallets for sponsorship. :-)
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Alex
the € is in crises, wallet is empty ;-)
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stpeter
yeah
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stpeter
at least my dollars will go farther this time :)
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Alex
yes :D
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Alex
more beer for the dollars
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stpeter
heh
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stpeter
yeah
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stpeter
Florian found an inexpensive hotel this time
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Alex
just kidding, we are serious guys, no beer only work. Otherwise Marc will not join us ;-)
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stpeter
but no other business here
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Alex
6) Formal Adjournment
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Marc
>Alex: just kidding, we are serious guys, no beer only work. Otherwise Marc will not join us LOL hey i like beer too :D
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Alex
I motion that we adjourn
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Steven Parkes
second
- Alex bangs the gavel
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stpeter
thank you, Alex, as always!
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Alex
no problem
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kevin
1 beer for me please!
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Marc
i am from the uk after all :D
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Kev
Thanks Alex.
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Marc
*follows everyone* thanks Alex
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Peter Waher
Where/how is the best location/method for starting forming interest groups withing xmpp.org ?
- Alex adds the new members to the mailing list
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stpeter
Peter Waher: what interest group are you interested in?
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stpeter
typically we discuss technical topics on the standards@xmpp.org list and organizational topics on the members@xmpp.org list
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Peter Waher
ok
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Peter Waher
I'm currently interested in three areas
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stpeter
there's a list of lsits at http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo
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Peter Waher
1) Sensor networks
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Peter Waher
2) Distributed social networks
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Peter Waher
3) Extensions of semantic web to p2p networks
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kevin
Marc: hows weather there?
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Peter Waher
How do I best come in contact with members interested in similar topics?
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Peter Waher
Mailing to above mailing lists?
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MiGri
thats one goos way
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MiGri
*good
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stpeter
Peter Waher: I've been talking with other people interested in sensor networks and smartgrid and such -- I might start a new discussion list about that topic
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Peter Waher
excellent. :)
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stpeter
Peter Waher: there is definitely some interest in that topic among a small but active community of people
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Zash
(mailing lists need pep-style filtering)
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stpeter
as to distributed social networks, we have some talks now and then with the OStatus / StatusNet / etc. folks
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Kev
And BuddyCloud, most notably.
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Marc
>kevin: Marc: hows weather there? damp and cold :| hows the weather there?
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stpeter
kev: indeed
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kevin
Marc: too Cold : D
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Peter Waher
We're interested in building social network applications based on XMPP and Plug Computers
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Marc
>kevin: Marc: too Cold : D what its cold there too? oh and join my website now :)
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Peter Waher
which would help users maintain ownership control of the life cycle of published information
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stpeter
Peter Waher: sounds interesting
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stpeter
Peter Waher: you'll definitely want to chat with the BuddyCloud guys
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Zash
Related to Freedom box?
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stpeter
Peter Waher: we have a list for XMPP and social networking at http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/social
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dwd
stpeter, I was going to say, the buddycloud guys have built a distributed social network on the back of XMPP.
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stpeter
dwd: yes indeed
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Alex
you are all subscribed now
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Peter Waher
Looks interesting. Will definitely have a look at what they offer and see if we can work together somehow.
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stpeter
Peter Waher: cool
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dwd
Peter Waher, buddycloud is about as open as you could hope for, the only problem is they're weak on formal docs about the protocol.
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stpeter
Peter Waher: where are you located? several BuddyCloud folks and other federated social web people will be at FOSDEM / XMPP Summit (that reminds me, I need to follow up with Simon about that...)
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dwd
Peter Waher, But they'll all be at the SUmmit.
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Marc
>Peter Waher: We're interested in building social network applications based on XMPP and Plug Computers i am intergrating xmpp/jabber into my website :)
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Marc
so you can join rooms nad such :)
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Marc
and*
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Peter Waher
I'm located in Sweden. I was thinking about perhaps going to the summit if time allows.
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Peter Waher
It would be a great way to share ideas and find peers interested in similar topics
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dwd
imaginator, Hi Simon.
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Marc
>Peter Waher: It would be a great way to share ideas and find peers interested in similar topics indeed
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imaginator
Hi Dave. Simon here.
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dwd
Peter Waher, imaginator is Simon Tennant, the founder of buddycloud.
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Peter Waher
Hello Simon
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kevin
Hi Simon!
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Peter Waher
Just got introduced to buddycloud
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imaginator
so one of the buddycloud projects (sponsored by Google) is the taste engine that looks through channels / pubsub nodes and finds similar followers.
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imaginator
https://github.com/buddycloud/channel-directory
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imaginator
Hi Peter and Kev.
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dwd
imaginator, I was also going to bug you about looking at XEP-0309 in relation to buddycloud channels.
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Marc
Hi Simon :)
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imaginator
I've not seen that before. How does 309 deal with getting a wider view rather than just a per-server?
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imaginator
to me this is the real value of Abmar's code. Since jid's are universal - it can get better ideas of taste from looking across multiple open nodes on multiple servers.
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dwd
imaginator, XEP-0309 is newly minted today. But it acts as a central registry service for other services to register themselves with.
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dwd
imaginator, I think it's primarily aimed at replacing the existing server list on xmpp.org, but it could be extended easily, I think, to act as a directory of channels ervers, or channels.
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dwd
imaginator, But anyway - reason I poked you was because Peter Waher was talking about wanting to work on distributed social networking. I think you may know a thing or two about it...
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Peter Waher
Tried to add you as a contact so we could chat later, but it seems I can't get user info about your user. What's you JID?
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Marc
Hi all, i have a qestion?
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imaginator
Regarding the standardisation bits of bc. AT the moment it's been all kept on https://buddycloud.org/wiki/XMPP_XEP but I'd like to start XEP-ing and looking for improvements as more people and servers start to be run.
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Marc
what is better to run a jabber/xmpp server? ejabberd or openfire
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stpeter
Marc: that depends on your requirements :)
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imaginator
Peter - simon@buddycloud.com - always happy to chat.
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Marc
well i want to use msn and so on,
- imaginator will also be at FOSDEM
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Marc
and it cannot take to much of my pc memory, as i am running a crappy pc for a server atm
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dwd
Marc, There's lots of other servers aside from ejabberd and Openfire, too.
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Marc
>dwd: Marc, There's lots of other servers aside from ejabberd and Openfire, too. okay can you tell me some please
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dwd
http://xmpp.org/xmpp-software/servers/
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Marc
welcome bacK Alex
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Marc
and another question, i have spectrum, but i do not know how to add it to ejabbed :(
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stpeter
ok, I'm going to head home soon because I'm not feeling all that well, I'll be back a bit later
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stpeter
imaginator: do we need to follow up with the FSW folks about their schedule in Brussels
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Marc
>stpeter: ok, I'm going to head home soon because I'm not feeling all that well, I'll be back a bit later okay cya, and get well soon
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stpeter
imaginator: e.g., time on Friday, some talks on Saturday in the xmpp devroom?
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kevin
stpeter: bye have a nice day!
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stpeter
imaginator: will ping you via some other technology, I need to log off now
- stpeter disappears in a puff of smoke
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Kev
imaginator: Hi.
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Kev
Sorry, was AFK, rather than ignoring.
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Peter Waher
Thanks for today. Talk to you later.
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Marc
wb Kev
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MattJ
http://logs.xmpp.org/
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MattJ
and there was much rejoicing
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Kev
Thansk.
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MattJ
Thants
- Zash rejoices
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Kev
"Lord Zash has tasked me with sorting through you refuse to find one worthy of being her apprentice, and I intend to do just that."
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Kev
Something you're not telling us?
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Zash
Ehrm.
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Zash
What?
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Kev
Star Wars: The Old Republic.
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Kev
Lord Zash seems to be a female Sith lord.
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Kev
Congratulations.
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Zash
Nice.
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dwd
Zash, I'd just like you to know that I'm not even smiling. Not even a tiny bit.
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Kev
That's Lord Zash to you, slave...
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Kev
Ahem.
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Kev
I'm finding this very convincing.
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Zash
( Actually probable origin of my nick: http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Zasz )
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Zash
There's also a "Major League Lacrosse" player named Zash :/
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dwd
ralphm, About?
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dwd
ralphm, We seem to have a stand in AW - is this as well as the Realtime Lounge™?
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dwd
ralphm, Because I'm not sure we really want both. Although it'd be great for doing Jingle calls between them, I suppose.
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MattJ
:)
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ralphm
dwd: well, they assigned that space in AW as a regular stand, but if we just present a nice place, we will /instead/ get the spot in K
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ralphm
dwd: I haven't followed the stuff much this week. I'll try to look into what we have tomorrow
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dwd
Ah, OK.
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ralphm
Let's then see what we have, and come up with some prose
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ralphm
dwd: do you have some preferred time slot for that?