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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[15:48:41] <Dave Cridland> I wondr if this client will be good enough to hold a meeting with.
[15:48:57] <Dave Cridland> ("wondr" - how very Web 2.0)
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[15:52:28] <Dave Cridland> Ashley, Hiya.
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[16:07:40] <Ashley Roach> hey
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[16:11:13] <Dave Cridland> ~17 minutes to go.
[16:11:30] <Dave Cridland> On my tablet, so heaven only knows if the XMPP client will hold up. :-)
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[16:22:36] <Dave Cridland> 6 minutes to go. Two board members. I should start poking people, I suppose.
[16:23:06] <bear> in case I get pulled by the meeting i'm lurking in now: +1 to dave as chair, +1 to alex, stpeter
[16:23:15] <bear> but I'm here currently :)
[16:26:19] <Dave Cridland> Not that we need to vote for Chair. :-)
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[16:27:10] <Dave Cridland> Whee. Four directors. Quoratastic.
[16:27:16] <Florian> hey all
[16:27:30] <Dave Cridland> And I think it's time to start.
[16:27:55] <Dave Cridland> So, my understanding is that Alex is happy to continue as Secretary for another session.
[16:28:02] <Kev> 3minutes by my watch, but anyway.
[16:28:03] <Dave Cridland> Oh, is Peter here yet?
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[16:29:32] <Ashley Roach> maybe this will hold
[16:29:46] <stpeter> hi Ashley
[16:29:48] <Ashley Roach> tap tap, can you hear me?
[16:29:50] <Ashley Roach> yay!
[16:29:54] <Dave Cridland> Ah, perfect.
[16:30:04] <Ashley Roach> i think adium got confused
[16:30:13] <stpeter> I'm here but on a W3C conference call related to the IETF IRI WG -- always fun
[16:30:24] <Dave Cridland> So, stpeter - are you willing to continue as Executive Director?
[16:30:42] <Dave Cridland> stpeter - and did I get it right that you'realso Treasurer? And do you want to be?
[16:31:01] <stpeter> yes, I can continue as Executive Director -- and I'll have more time for that after March 30
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[16:31:38] <Dave Cridland> Hi Chris.
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[16:31:43] <cchris434> hello
[16:31:59] <stpeter> I think it would be good to discuss whether we can find someone else for the Treasurer role (although I'm happy to continue with that, we might want more checks and balances)
[16:32:00] <Florian> great
[16:32:14] <Dave Cridland> Do we have any candidates?
[16:32:41] <stpeter> not really
[16:32:47] <Dave Cridland> If not, then we could post to the list requesting volunteers, if you'd like.
[16:32:48] <stpeter> but we might want to discuss that
[16:33:00] <stpeter> I really don't mind keeping those books
[16:33:14] <stpeter> and it probably helps to have someone in the States for banking purposes
[16:33:23] <Dave Cridland> That thought had occured to me.
[16:33:51] <stpeter> Jack Moffitt volunteered once upon a time, but in fact we never got him set up for check-writing privileges
[16:34:27] <Dave Cridland> I'm happy either way, but the more people involved the better, as a rule, so if you're happy to hand that role onto someone else, I think that'd be great.
[16:34:50] <Dave Cridland> But obviously, we need to find someone we want to do the role.
[16:34:55] <stpeter> right
[16:35:06] <Florian> right
[16:35:14] <Florian> and like Peter said, preferably someone in the US
[16:35:48] <Dave Cridland> So does anyone have any objections to deferring the Treasurer [re-]appointment for a week or two, giving us time to go recruit?
[16:36:02] <bear> +1 to defer - let's beat the bushes to find a suspect
[16:36:12] <cchris434> agreed
[16:36:14] <Florian> _1
[16:36:18] <Florian> eh +1
[16:36:20] <stpeter> "suspect" :)
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[16:36:51] <Ashley Roach> +1
[16:37:04] <Dave Cridland> Right, OK, I think that's unanimous, then.
[16:37:47] <Florian> so next up, FOSDEM report?
[16:38:18] <Dave Cridland> So, Executive Director. No members have approached me, at any rate, complaining about Peter. Is everyone happy with him continuing on?
[16:38:34] <Dave Cridland> Florian, We need to formally appoint the other two officiers first.
[16:38:47] <Florian> oh right:)
[16:39:01] <Florian> +1 for Peter as ED
[16:39:07] <Dave Cridland> I'm in favour of Peter continuing as ED, too.
[16:39:15] <bear> +1 for continuing to torment Peter
[16:39:23] <cchris434> agreed +1
[16:39:58] <Dave Cridland> Ashley?
[16:40:40] <Dave Cridland> And while Ashley gets his connection back... Is everyone happy with Alex continuing as XSF Secretary?
[16:41:02] <Florian> I am.
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[16:42:37] <Dave Cridland> Anyone else?
[16:42:47] <cchris434> +1
[16:42:59] <bear> +1
[16:43:57] <Ashley Roach> +1
[16:44:05] <Ashley Roach> sorry — multitasking
[16:45:02] <Dave Cridland> OK, so both ED and Secretary positions are filled for the next year (or so).
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[16:45:12] <Dave Cridland> So onto FOSDEM.
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[16:45:31] <Dave Cridland> Did eveyone read through the discussions on the members list?
[16:45:58] <Florian> yes, more or less
[16:46:01] <stpeter> I haven't read the last few messages yet
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[16:47:06] <Dave Cridland> The major outstanding thing is there's a suggestion that we should write a blog post saying how wonderful the whole thing was.
[16:47:16] <Zash> :D
[16:47:24] <ashleyroach> that seems like good marketing
[16:47:36] <stpeter> right
[16:47:42] <ashleyroach> do we have photos? if not, it didn't happen, right?
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[16:47:53] <Kev> That and that we might consider a Note Well.
[16:47:55] <stpeter> I have photos of the lounge
[16:47:55] <Dave Cridland> I have some photos, I think there are others.
[16:47:59] <stpeter> but not of the devroom
[16:48:19] <Dave Cridland> Kev, Yes, a Note Well would be useful.
[16:48:20] <Florian> I have some photos as well
[16:48:21] <stpeter> Kev: as in IETF Note Well?
[16:48:56] <Dave Cridland> stpeter, I have some photos of the devroom. Including some of me and Kev talking, but those ones are awful.
[16:48:57] <Kev> stpeter: Yes. See discussion on me objecting to being covertly recorded with the intention of publishing the recording.
[16:49:43] <Kev> The rough summary being "Let's have a Note Well, and then I'll know in future that I'm subject to recording".
[16:50:03] <stpeter> Kev: ah, that's in the part of the thread I hadn't read yet
[16:50:36] <stpeter> Kev: but yes, you make a good point
[16:50:54] <stpeter> in any case, we can post a blog entry without audio recordings :)
[16:51:09] <ashleyroach> right
[16:51:13] <Florian> yeah
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[16:51:54] <stpeter> I think we can draft something fairly quickly based on the notes that Dave and I made -- I can do that by end of week
[16:52:01] <Dave Cridland> stpeter, If we're to have a *shudder* formal contribution policy, that's something I think we'll spend a considerable time on.
[16:52:33] <stpeter> Dave Cridland: you will note that I started to work on one, see http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/copyright.html
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[16:53:04] <Kev> The question then is whether we can get by without one. I certainly don't think we can go recording private conversations without telling those involved.
[16:53:15] <stpeter> Dave Cridland: but it would require more work, and probably legal advice
[16:54:12] <stpeter> I'll draft a post and send it to folks for review before we post it
[16:54:30] <Dave Cridland> Kev, I wondered about this. I think we probably can, being a US corporation, actually, except for the fact that the meeting was in the EU, and probably subject to EU laws.
[16:54:57] <Dave Cridland> Kev, FWIW, I don't think Matt can legally keep a copy of the recording without needing to cover himself with Data Protection Act voodo.
[16:55:03] <cchris434> in the US, it might depend the state you reside in for this type of issue
[16:55:04] <stpeter> heh
[16:55:30] <Florian> heh, this is getting complicated :)
[16:55:36] <stpeter> indeed
[16:55:44] <Dave Cridland> Florian, Right, it is.
[16:56:06] <stpeter> IETF meetings are always covered under Note Well, no matter where they're held
[16:56:35] <Dave Cridland> stpeter, Yes, but the Note Well has had lawyers running over it, and doesn't involve the (implicit?) copyright assignment the XSF uses.
[16:56:36] <Kev> stpeter: Right, which everyone must explicitly agree to, I believe.
[16:56:46] <Dave Cridland> kev, No, it's implicit.
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[16:57:03] <Dave Cridland> Kev, I think the lawyers would be happy with an explicit agreement of some kind.
[16:57:16] <stpeter> Dave Cridland: sounds like a topic for another meeting
[16:57:25] <Florian> stpeter: +1
[16:57:49] <Kev> Dave Cridland: Implicit that because it's an IETF venue you're under the Note Well, or implicit that once you're told the Note Well implies to that venue that any contribution is covered?
[16:58:17] <Kev> I thought it was the latter (e.g. that the Note Well was mentioned at the start of sessions)
[16:58:24] <Dave Cridland> Kev, Implicit because you're accepting only by the fact you continue participating.
[16:59:22] <stpeter> the Note Well is mentioned at the beginning of every session, and you also agree to it when you register
[16:59:34] <Dave Cridland> But in any case, I think we move the subject of Note Well etc to the list, if that's OK?
[16:59:39] <stpeter> yep
[16:59:46] <Kev> Sure.
[16:59:46] <Dave Cridland> (As in, I don't think we'll solve this right now).
[16:59:47] <Florian> yes
[16:59:56] <Dave Cridland> SO as actions, I have:
[17:00:26] <Dave Cridland> 1) We're going to beat the bushes and so on and so forth, looking for a Treasurer
[17:00:36] <stpeter> I've already started writing the blog post :)
[17:00:52] <Dave Cridland> 2) Peter is going to do a blog post. I'll send him some photos (On Friday, when I'm home).
[17:01:04] <stpeter> Dave Cridland: great, thanks
[17:01:20] <Dave Cridland> 3) We'll start a thread on the members@ list about participation policy. (ie, recording, copyright, etc).
[17:01:33] <Dave Cridland> Anything else I missed?
[17:01:33] <Florian> sounds good
[17:01:45] <Dave Cridland> Oh, I suppose:
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[17:02:01] <Dave Cridland> 4) We should make a call for photos on the summit@ list.
[17:02:12] <stpeter> I already asked for photos, but we can ask again
[17:02:27] <Dave Cridland> stpeter, Oh, yes, you did.
[17:03:32] <Dave Cridland> So, I henceforth, thus, ergo, propose the motion that we adjourn.
[17:03:50] <Florian> +1
[17:03:53] <bear> +1
[17:03:57] <cchris434> +1
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[17:04:15] <bear> thanks dave (and all)
[17:04:19] <Dave Cridland> Right - Time Gentlemen, Please.
[17:04:25] <Florian> thanks all
[17:04:28] <cchris434> thanks!
[17:04:28] <ashleyroach> cheers
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