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XSF Discussion | Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/xsf/ | Agenda https://trello.com/b/Dn6IQOu0/board-meetings

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[16:27:45] <Dave Cridland> Afternoon, all.
[16:28:06] <Dave Cridland> I take it it's just me and Mike so far?
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[16:28:28] <Dave Cridland> Afternoon Chris.
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[16:28:33] <cchris434> good afternoon!
[16:29:22] <Kev> Dave Cridland: And me. I'm just not sure that counts for anything useful.
[16:30:02] <stpeter> I don't see Ashley online
[16:30:39] <Kev> Dave: I'd like to throw Athena briefly onto the agenda.
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[16:30:55] <Florian> yhello @ all
[16:31:41] <Dave Cridland> Righty. With three people actively here, I'll declare ourselves quorate.
[16:32:01] <Florian> :)
[16:32:44] <Dave Cridland> So I *think* the agenda stood at GSoC, but Kev is asking to add Athena - anything else?
[16:32:58] <Florian> not from my end
[16:33:15] <Dave Cridland> Oh. I wouldn't mind raising the membership elections. As in, having some.
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[16:33:38] <Dave Cridland> But we'll start with GSoC.
[16:33:51] <Dave Cridland> Kev, What's the status with GSoC?
[16:33:55] *stpeter loads http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summer_of_Code_2012 in his browser for review after this meeting
[16:34:26] <Kev> Dave Cridland: We have an application submitted, we can change it until this Friday. I've sent a copy for review to those people who mailed to say they wanted to help this year.
[16:34:35] <Kev> I think that list stands at Me, Peter, Florian, Bear, Alex.
[16:34:41] <Dave Cridland> Kev, Any responses/feedback?
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[16:34:53] <Florian> yup. It was fine. nothing to add
[16:35:03] <Kev> A couple of 'it's fine' noises.
[16:35:15] <Kev> I've not heard from everyone yet, though.
[16:35:37] <Kev> So, the application needs to link to an ideas page.
[16:35:38] <bear> it looked ok to me - the app info can be adjusted at any time
[16:35:51] <Kev> bear: Until Friday.
[16:36:07] <Kev> Our ideas page is at http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Summer_of_Code_2012
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[16:36:33] <Dave Cridland> Without spinning up a browser, is there anything but Swift on there?
[16:36:36] <Kev> I've been mercilessly chasing people to populate it, and that's starting to show some results. If anyone else has contact with appropriate people, please do chase them.
[16:36:44] <Kev> Swift, Spectrum, Prosody, BC.
[16:36:50] <Dave Cridland> OK, cool.
[16:37:04] <Kev> The ideas page is a bit odd - we're not accepted, so clearly we don't need ideas yet.
[16:37:16] <Kev> But the application includes the ideas page, and without a solid ideas page, we won't get in.
[16:37:23] <stpeter> right
[16:37:25] <Dave Cridland> OK.
[16:37:34] <Kev> I chatted briefly to Carol about this, she pretty much confirmed that without a good ideas page, we're not getting in this year.
[16:37:35] <Dave Cridland> Bureaucracy 2.0?
[16:37:43] <Kev> No, I don't think so, I think this is right.
[16:37:54] <stpeter> agreed
[16:38:00] <Kev> Carol (and others) have to judge the org. apps. somehow, and ideas pages are important.
[16:38:12] <Kev> It just means we need to get ours populated competently.
[16:38:31] <Dave Cridland> OK. So is ours OK, or should we be panicking?
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[16:38:58] <Kev> I think ours is getting there. I'd like to see a little more on it - ideall something from Gajim, as they've frequently contributed in the past.
[16:39:00] <stpeter> no need for panic, I think, but a bit more attention would be good perhaps
[16:39:03] <stpeter> nod
[16:39:23] *stpeter cedes to Kev
[16:39:39] <Dave Cridland> OK. So actions here are to push on a few more projects, particularly Gajim.
[16:39:39] <Kev> So if people can please chase anyone they have contacts with (and would be appropriate), I'd appreciate that.
[16:39:52] <Dave Cridland> So .. Athena?
[16:40:01] <Dave Cridland> And yes, this is for Kev to report on as well.
[16:40:01] <Kev> Some I've not heard back from (Psi, Tigase), others have promised to get something done, and Gajim I've not seen anyone online to poke.
[16:40:02] <stpeter> Kev: will do
[16:40:14] <Kev> Ta.
[16:40:29] <Florian> I'll poke Tigase
[16:40:38] <stpeter> thanks, Florian!
[16:41:03] <Florian> ok, so Athena?
[16:41:11] <Kev> Dave Cridland: I've not seen any disagreement from iteam on a plan of "replace Athena with a new box, and then mirror at least critical (and ideally all) bits of xmpp.org onto a box of Florian's - either ds0039, or the other box if that's still on offer". So I'd like to push forward with that plan.
[16:41:56] <Florian> push forward with what?
[16:42:11] <Kev> I realise this seems like overkill for hosting a couple of hundred static pages (the XEPs), but given that's our main purpose, it seems important.
[16:42:31] <Dave Cridland> Right, I agree.
[16:42:31] <Kev> Florian: Someone getting a replacement for Athena in the bunker, and the iteam starting setting up some mirrorring.
[16:42:38] <Florian> ok
[16:43:02] <Dave Cridland> So we need to have the executive director discuss with the treasurer about sourcing the machine?
[16:43:06] <Florian> so we need to get some offers in from HP / Dell for a box?
[16:43:07] <Kev> I think having a copy in the states and a copy at yours gives us a pretty good chance for resilience.
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[16:43:29] <Kev> I don't think athena2 needs to be hugely powerful, FWIW.
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[16:43:40] <stpeter> right
[16:43:43] <Kev> Athena isn't, and we're not replacing her because she's underpowered, justbecause she's falling apart.
[16:43:48] <stpeter> the iteam probably needs to do some scoping
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[16:44:25] <Dave Cridland> OK. I think we find a price, then, and go from there. We've got the money to spend on this, and it's mission critical.
[16:44:37] <stpeter> yes
[16:44:53] <Kev> Ok, is that an action on iteam to get quotes, then?
[16:45:01] <Dave Cridland> Yes, please.
[16:45:09] <Kev> (I'll have to let someone else do this, as I'll buy the wrong shape plug or something, I don't do hosting)
[16:45:11] <Kev> Ok.
[16:45:22] <stpeter> heh
[16:45:33] <Dave Cridland> Kev, I've heard they have funny shaped plug over there, yes.
[16:45:38] <Kev> I think that's my two items done with, so you Board chaps can carry on with your meeting now :)
[16:45:58] <bear> :)
[16:45:59] <stpeter> BTW, I have received multiple offers of assistance in the past (hosting, DNS, etc.), but I haven't kept a good log of them
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[16:46:12] <Dave Cridland> Kev, Thanks.
[16:46:17] <Dave Cridland> (Genuinely)
[16:46:29] <stpeter> so if we decided that we needed additional mirrors for some reason, I think we could gather some offers
[16:46:31] <Dave Cridland> (As in, *no* sarcasm. Which is a shock)
[16:46:46] <stpeter> but backup to ds0039 is probably good enough for now
[16:47:07] <Kev> stpeter: I think so, yes. ds0039 has worked as our fallback (albeit with painful manual steps) so far.
[16:47:13] <stpeter> yes
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[16:47:26] <stpeter> we'll just work to remove the painful manual steps
[16:47:32] <Dave Cridland> So, aside from pointedly not mentioning all the actions we didn't do from last meeting because I forgot to write any minutes, the only other thing is membership elections...
[16:47:51] <Dave Cridland> I noticed that the applications page suggests we may hold a meeting next February.
[16:48:23] <stpeter> hmm
[16:48:28] <stpeter> as in last month?
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[16:48:41] <Dave Cridland> Who ought to be deciding when the election is? Is this for us to prod Alex, or should we let Alex decide and butt out?
[16:49:03] <Dave Cridland> stpeter, Yes, I'd assume so - we've just missed it what with FOSDEM etc.
[16:49:03] <stpeter> usually Alex decides, but I think prodding might be in order
[16:49:08] <bear> +1 to Alex just doing his thing
[16:49:12] <Florian> +1
[16:49:13] <stpeter> yeah, that FOSDEM thing kept us busy
[16:49:20] <Dave Cridland> And distracted.
[16:49:37] <Dave Cridland> Florian, WHat are you actually voting for, there?
[16:49:45] <Florian> Bear's suggestion :)
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[16:52:06] <Dave Cridland> I think we should prod Alex, personally, in this case. I'm assuming it's an oversight, and reminding him that the page is out of date is a sensible thing to do.
[16:52:32] <Florian> yup
[16:52:35] <stpeter> yes
[16:52:44] <Dave Cridland> But if you guys disagree, I shall abide by your decision and just write this up in the minutes. :-)
[16:52:50] <Florian> so we'll just announce a voting period opening next week?
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[16:53:15] <bear> giving alex a nudge wfm
[16:53:28] <ralphm> stpeter: I seem to have a potential SoC project involving wokkel sent to me by ploum
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[16:53:44] <stpeter> ralphm: cool :)
[16:54:00] <Dave Cridland> OK. So I think that's us done, unless there's any other business?
[16:54:10] <ralphm> stpeter: mentioning you sent them to me
[16:54:22] <Florian> Dave Cridland: nothing from here
[16:54:25] <stpeter> ralphm: he contacted me, yes
[16:54:46] <stpeter> ralphm: I asked him what programming languages he was interested in, and when he said Python I mentioned some projects he might look into
[16:54:55] <Dave Cridland> Schedule another meeting for same time next week?
[16:54:59] <Florian> wfm
[16:55:01] <stpeter> yep
[16:55:18] <bear> +1
[16:55:21] <Dave Cridland> OK. I motion to adjourn until next week, then.
[16:55:32] <bear> seconded
[16:55:36] <Dave Cridland> Thanks, all.
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[16:55:44] <Florian> cheers guys!
[16:55:59] *bear waves and goes to find out how to be an apple fanboy for the next couple of hours
[16:56:05] <stpeter> calendar updated
[16:56:38] <Tobias> bear, is it live streamed?
[16:57:03] <Florian> Tobias: no, but TWiT will be covering it :)
[16:59:03] <bear> it's live streamed only if someone brave points their camera to the stage
[16:59:26] <Tobias> heh
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[16:59:45] <bear> I just have to ramp up monitoring of the twit web and streaming servers
[16:59:54] <stpeter> bbiab
[16:59:54] <ralphm> bear: I've read the other day that Apple fans behave as religious fanatics. Does that help you?
[17:00:04] <bear> the viewer levels have already exceeded the "normal" range
[17:00:28] <bear> ralphm - yes, it helps explain why I don't seem to be able to be one
[17:00:43] <Florian> bear: I'm monitoring the flosoft box :)
[17:00:56] <bear> florian - that's the one box i'm *not* worried about
[17:01:15] <bear> it's the PHP app servers that need extra help
[17:01:49] <Florian> bear: if you need additional ressources, tell me :)
[17:02:00] <Florian> load it onto our CDN (requires DNS update though)
[17:02:14] <Kev> "Honest Florian's Top Server Deals"
[17:02:18] <bear> :)
[17:02:25] <Florian> :D
[17:02:49] <bear> what I need is for the drupal devs to learn how to make the site not fail when switched to static
[17:02:59] <bear> i've had to put varnish in front without them knowing
[17:03:30] <Dave Cridland> Kev, Florian's banned from using that adjective thanks to EU trade description rules.
[17:03:49] <Kev> "Server"? :)
[17:03:58] <Florian> fail?
[17:04:15] <Kev> To be fair, my Flosoft server is the silliest piece of barely-a-computer imaginable, and it's doing me absolutely fine.
[17:04:40] <Kev> Any dedicated server I can afford must be good :)
[17:04:51] <Dave Cridland> Dr Kevin Smith, author of such classics as "XMPP: The Definitive Guide", says...
[17:04:59] <Florian> haha
[17:05:26] <Dave Cridland> ... "My FLosoft server is the silliest piece of bare-a-computer imaginable"
[17:05:44] <Zash> Haha
[17:06:41] <Dave Cridland> I'll never make it in advertising.
[17:09:16] <Florian> server=142
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[17:16:04] <ralphm> bear: http://www.technologytell.com/apple/42656/brand-expert-martin-lindstrom-calls-apple-a-religion/
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[20:33:50] *** jef shows as "online"
[20:38:57] *** MiGri shows as "away" and his status message is "I'm not at the computer but I'll read the messages as soon as I'll be back."
[20:54:04] *** ralphm shows as "online"
[20:54:04] *** ralphm shows as "away" and his status message is "Away"
[21:18:22] *** jef shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being idle more than 5 min)"
[21:18:56] *** ralphm shows as "away" and his status message is "Away"
[21:18:59] *** ralphm shows as "online"
[21:28:22] *** jef shows as "xa" and his status message is " (Not available as a result of being idle more than 15 min)"
[21:33:59] *** luca tagliaferri has joined the room
[21:34:06] *** MiGri shows as "online" and his status message is "This conversation may be monitored for quality assurance or security purposes. ;)"
[21:59:56] *** jef has left the room
[22:02:37] *** stpeter shows as "dnd" and his status message is "on a conference call"
[22:06:21] *** jef has joined the room
[22:07:15] *** MiGri shows as "xa" and his status message is "Screen detached. I'll read the messages as soon as I'll be back."
[22:32:58] *** luca tagliaferri has left the room
[22:34:23] *** jef shows as "online"
[22:35:18] *** luca tagliaferri has joined the room
[22:41:33] *** Kev shows as "away"
[22:45:30] *** stpeter shows as "online"
[22:51:53] *** jef shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being idle more than 5 min)"
[22:52:03] *** jef shows as "online"
[22:54:41] *** ralphm has left the room
[22:54:48] *** ralphm has joined the room
[22:59:51] *** jef shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being idle more than 5 min)"
[23:04:51] *** jef shows as "online"
[23:05:05] *** luca tagliaferri has left the room
[23:10:01] *** jef shows as "away" and his status message is " (Away as a result of being idle more than 5 min)"
[23:11:51] *** jef shows as "online"
[23:13:29] *** stpeter shows as "xa" and his status message is "running an errand"